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Realistic 914 budget? |
matt5596 |
Mar 7 2012, 08:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 28-September 11 From: Norris, TN Member No.: 13,619 Region Association: South East States |
I fell in love with these cars as a kid and now it's time to own my first one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
I'd like to get into a 70-73 1.8-2.0 daily driver. I'm handy around cars but rust removal is out of my league. Is $5k a realistic budget? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
pilothyer |
Mar 7 2012, 08:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 838 Joined: 21-May 08 From: N. Alabama Member No.: 9,080 Region Association: South East States |
Absolutely, irrefutably not......$5000. is just a good start.
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NJ914Guy |
Mar 7 2012, 08:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 30-December 10 From: Deptford, NJ Member No.: 12,546 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
IMHO, around $10,000 gets you into a solid driver. Nicely restored in the mid teens and just over $20k for a concours car in a 4 cylinder. And either be handy or keep some extra cash around for repairs and improvements. They are great cars! I have several cool cars in my garage but nothing makes me smile more than driving my 914! Good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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poorsche914 |
Mar 7 2012, 09:09 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,090 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) from a local teener - I am in Seymour.
If you search long enough, $5k could get you a 914 in decent shape rust-wise but perhaps would need mechanical or cosmetic work. Then it is a matter of spending the $$$ as you have it to fix things up. I have under 5k invested in my car and drive it every day. Yeah, it has some issues (including rust and body work) but I am getting all the mechanicals done first. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Mike Bellis |
Mar 7 2012, 09:59 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
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Rand |
Mar 7 2012, 10:05 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
I wouldn't rule out the 74-76 cars because at this point backdating bumpers and smog stuff is no big deal compared to larger problems in earlier cars. What matters most is a solid tub. You can find a decent car in the range you are talking about as a starting point, but plan on continuing to invest in it over time.
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JamesM |
Mar 8 2012, 01:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,912 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I think it depends a lot on how much you know, how much work you are willing to put in, and how long you are willing to wait for the right deals to come along.
13 or so years ago I got my first 914 after reading as much as i possibly could. I bought to soon without looking around and in the long run got screwed money wise. It was not a looker by any means but had suspension upgrades and supposedly a rebuilt 2L. Motor dropped a valve seat within the first 500 miles, tranny was junk as well. Was into it close to 10k within the first year.. and that was 13 years ago. Good learning experience though. Fast forward a bit to 2007, been working on 914s for a while, owned a couple parts cars and know these things pretty much inside and out. Guy at a PCA autocross has a grey 914 he got from his brother that he tells me he is just to tall for. 73 2L with FI, hell hole has been repaired, and documented 30k miles on a rebuild. Shifts better then any 914 I have ever driven. Picked it up for $3250. Have used it as my daily driver when the weather is good for the lat 5 years and spent nothing on it other then oil, gas, and the set of fuchs I got for it last year. Even passes emissions testing every year with no fuss. right place right time on that one. Working on a lilac car for my wife now. When it is all back together I should still be around 5k. $1500 for a 72 1.7 car with a strong rebuilt motor/ side shift tranny, but questionable rust/rust repair. $1000 for a 72 non runner that had been garaged since 1986 with a solid chassis. Strip the good chassis to the bone, $1000 to get it painted (cheap job but looks great). Now its just time putting it all back together with the best parts from the pair of cars and another $500-$1000 in replacing all the rubber seals and it will be the most solid 914 I have. Might be a bit tougher where you are at, but I think it can be done. Just find someone who really knows these cars to point you in the right direction. You will probably have to find something in your local classifieds or know someone though. People on the boards generally know a good deal and snatch them up quick. Pics to drive the point home I have under 5K in each of these |
falconfp2001 |
Mar 8 2012, 05:50 AM
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Pancho Pantera Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 5-December 10 From: Downey, CA Member No.: 12,456 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I agree that 5K is reasonable if you know what to look for and are willing to work out kinks later. it helps to be mechanically inclined also.
I found mine for 2700 and after sourcing a good used engine, used Side Shift, I have about another 1500 invested. I've even replaced the floor pan at a decent price, upgraded the suspension some. It's now my daily driver and one of the best cars I've ever driven. People compliment its looks all the time and it still has some cosmetic flaws I'm working on. I plan on doing a number of upgrades and i also budget to spend each year about what it would cost to make payments on a new car. Your car is only worth what you get out of it and some just want an old car that is like a new car. Everything is either already fixed or fixed to near perfection. Others like myself, enjoy being a shade tree mechanic and don't mind getting grease under the finger nails. I'll be working and upgrading my car until i find a new project to work on. I think the majority of Teener owners are hands on owners. I think the bottom line is what you want out of the car, its your choice. |
jimkelly |
Mar 8 2012, 07:10 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
easy question to answer.
go thru all the cars in the classifieds and you will know what you get for the money. ** note that even owners don't always know about all the rust issues that may be hidden under a decent coat of paint. cars from non snow/SALT states tend to be in better overall condition. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
carr914 |
Mar 8 2012, 07:38 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,863 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
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billh1963 |
Mar 8 2012, 07:42 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
You can find a very good driver for $5K. You just have to be willing to open your geographic search area and be ready to pounce when you find the right car.
As the previous poster said, look on here for examples of cars that have sold. If you take out the concours garage queens (on the upper end) and the parts cars (on the bottom end), you will see that some very decent cars have sold on here for between $3K and $6K . You will have to learn to do some of this work yourself to save money. |
matt5596 |
Mar 8 2012, 08:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 28-September 11 From: Norris, TN Member No.: 13,619 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks for all the responses!
I'm not looking for a queen but rather something that I can drive on occasion while slowly working on mechanical and cosmetic stuff. |
scott_in_nh |
Mar 8 2012, 07:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States |
Man so much good advice already given! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
I bought my car about a year ago for less than $5k, shipped it to NH, put maybe another $1k into it and have put over 7000 miles on it! Am I happy? Yes - in love actually (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Could I (you) have done better knowing what I now know? Yes, but I didn't miss by much! Could I have done as well without advice and help from members of the 914 community? No way! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Do I still have more to do? Yes, but that is what I signed up for. How I see me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) How my friends/colleagues see me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/prop.gif) Why I'm going on and on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) I'll redeem my post by adding pictures ... Sorry I don't have the center caps on in these pictures Mark - they look great! Attached image(s) |
raw1298 |
Mar 8 2012, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
Great advise from all of the above. I thought I could save on a stripped down chasis. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I am over 5ooo so far and have only driven it down the driveway. Would do it all over again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) Really it was worth the learning experience.
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Black914_4 |
Mar 8 2012, 08:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 272 Joined: 11-January 12 From: AR Member No.: 13,994 Region Association: South East States |
I got lucky. Found a driver for under $2k. She's headed for the paint shop in a week, then new carpet and seats. Looking at right around $5k total when all said and done.
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falconfp2001 |
Mar 8 2012, 10:40 PM
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Pancho Pantera Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 5-December 10 From: Downey, CA Member No.: 12,456 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Man so much good advice already given! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I bought my car about a year ago for less than $5k, shipped it to NH, put maybe another $1k into it and have put over 7000 miles on it! Am I happy? Yes - in love actually (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Could I (you) have done better knowing what I now know? Yes, but I didn't miss by much! Could I have done as well without advice and help from members of the 914 community? No way! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Do I still have more to do? Yes, but that is what I signed up for. How I see me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) How my friends/colleagues see me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/prop.gif) Why I'm going on and on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) I'll redeem my post by adding pictures ... Sorry I don't have the center caps on in these pictures Mark - they look great! I like your Mahle Rims. Their almost identical to my pedrinis in color. |
Andyrew |
Mar 9 2012, 12:01 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
5k will buy you a nice driver or a nice looker. Not a nice looker and a nice driver. 10k will buy you both. 20k will buy you perfect.
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Mikey914 |
Mar 9 2012, 12:27 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,673 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Sounds like your on track. The rubber budget if it includes a set of new tops might be a bit light, but if your tops are servicable (or you can find some good used ones) it will be on target somewhere in the middle.
The only thing that gets expensive is you can't have just one! |
falconfp2001 |
Mar 9 2012, 01:06 AM
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Pancho Pantera Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 5-December 10 From: Downey, CA Member No.: 12,456 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sounds like your on track. The rubber budget if it includes a set of new tops might be a bit light, but if your tops are servicable (or you can find some good used ones) it will be on target somewhere in the middle. The only thing that gets expensive is you can't have just one! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I'm already looking for a replacement for my 74 beetle. People think I'm crazy but They are great cars. If you find one that has little or no rust issues, then your golden as far as I'm concerned. The other site (thesamba.com) usually is a great source as well. |
gothspeed |
Mar 9 2012, 08:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
If you are doing most of the work yourself, it will not be too bad ....... but add whatever you think it will cost ..... then pick a multiplier between 2 thru 10 depending on what build level you decide on ......... always try to buy the best one you can afford to start with.
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