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post Sep 23 2004, 07:29 AM
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Since I did not allow replies to my poll, it fell off of the first page pretty quickly. To this point, the results are not surprising. They are reflective of what we are seeing from the legitimate polling organizations.

If you haven't voted, please do so.

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post Sep 23 2004, 08:30 AM
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Sorry, Paul. Your boy is still behind. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Sep 23 2004, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Howard @ Sep 23 2004, 07:30 AM)
Sorry, Paul. Your boy is still behind. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Oh is he Aaron's friend with the black 914?
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post Sep 23 2004, 09:19 AM
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I voted. And I'm Canadian. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And when I voted it was pretty much 50% :50%: 0%,
so with the intention of being politically inflammatory (if that's a word?) I have to say that at least 50% of this board is completely insane. (Understanding that I may be included in that percentage) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


That said, I don't really follow 'Merican politics but I thought your Presidents were only allowed 2 terms in office. Isn't this like 4 coming up for George Bush?

This voting stuff is kind of fun. Maybe I will take a drive down to NY state and vote in the real thing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Sep 23 2004, 09:39 AM
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485 visits and 75 votes???

Apathy?
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post Sep 23 2004, 09:46 AM
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2 terms = 8 years (each term is 4 years). W still has one term he could serve, then the republicans must elect a new representative in the primary.
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post Sep 23 2004, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(Howard @ Sep 23 2004, 10:39 AM)
485 visits and 75 votes???

Apathy?


I don't think it's apathy, more like curiosity.

Everyone that voted probably checked back at least once to look at the results. So, that's 75x2=150.

Then, you have the unregistered guests that have viewed the thread. Here we treat them like the U.S. treats Canadians, they can't vote. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 23 2004, 10:06 AM
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the tread was gone for a while, then it was locked down so you couldn't vote, now it's back, WTF?

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post Sep 23 2004, 10:11 AM
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Okay, so maybe I can't vote in a U.S. election.

But I can go to Cuba. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Apathy is pretty much the norm in the real thing too, isn't it? I know we get pretty lousy voter turn out up here, even though our political leaders have no term limitations and you'd think we would get tired of the same guy after a decade or longer.
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But I can go to Cuba. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Sep 23 2004, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(balljoint @ Sep 23 2004, 09:11 AM)
Okay, so maybe I can't vote in a U.S. election.

But I can go to Cuba. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Apathy is pretty much the norm in the real thing too, isn't it? I know we get pretty lousy voter turn out up here, even though our political leaders have no term limitations and you'd think we would get tired of the same guy after a decade or longer.

Down here, we split the stupidity between two parties and every eight years. Voting for one or the other is like flipping a coin - it's just a different side of the same coin.

Yeh, I voted.
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post Sep 23 2004, 01:30 PM
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You might want to point out that you can't vote if you look at the vote count first...no "null vote" is not clear, it implies you have already voted, it should say you will not be able to vote if you look first.

So in this poll does the one who gets the most votes win, or, as in the last election, the one with fewer votes gets the win? Just curious...got to love a system that finds a way to justify anything but one person one vote.

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QUOTE(balljoint @ Sep 23 2004, 09:11 AM)
But I can go to Cuba. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

there you go! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i met a lot of canadians in cuba, in fact, i went to a BBQ at the canadian embassy in havana and spent most of the day hanging about the swimming pool!

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post Sep 23 2004, 02:01 PM
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Yup, Cuba is a beautiful country. Beaches are great, girls are beautiful and more fine tobacco than you can shake a stick at. The only problem is that Canadians are the loudest, drunkest, most obnovious people on the beach. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But there is a reason for that......
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post Sep 23 2004, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(John Kelly @ Sep 23 2004, 02:30 PM)
You might want to point out that you can't vote if you look at the vote count first...no "null vote" is not clear, it implies you have already voted, it should say you will not be able to vote if you look first.

So in this poll does the one who gets the most votes win, or, as in the last election, the one with fewer votes gets the win?  Just curious...got to love a system that finds a way to justify anything but one person one vote.

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John, our system is designed so that it is not necessary to win the popular vote. Our Constitution established that and it is the game that all presidential candidates have learned to play.

The one person, one vote principle still applies. But, most individuals do not realize that they are not voting for a candidate, they are voting to influence how one Electoral vote will be cast.
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post Sep 23 2004, 03:55 PM
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And in such a system millions of votes for president do not mean anything...they simply do not count. The electoral system is corrupt and overly complex. There is no reason for it except people's fear of how others might vote. I'm not afraid of anyones vote. In this system the two parties pay almost no attention to states that are locked up for their side or the other, which means politicians end up pandering to small groups of people instead of reaching out to everyone. One person, one vote a fundamentally fair, anything else is not...do you think there would be any chance of changing to the electoral system in this country if we had one person one vote in place instead? I don't. My vote should be worth no more or less than anyone elses. Anything else is simply cheating. I'd like to hear anyone explain the benefits of the electoral system for me...what's good about it? Why do we need it? How is it better or more fair than one person one vote? If the argument is small states need protection from large states, they already have a governor and two senators fighting for their interests regardless of population, so that does not wash. I think if Bush had won the popular vote by about a half a million people, and lost in the electoral college we might be having a national debate about this right now. And I would feel the same way I do now. How would my republican friends feel?

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post Sep 23 2004, 04:03 PM
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bye bye miles. see ya around. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . paul, you should give the lads over in the ot forum at the bird the "why you should always listen to your father".

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post Sep 23 2004, 04:38 PM
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John,

I understand your position. However, our country is guided by the Constitution and, in this case, particularly the 12th ammendment.

Unfortunately, there seems to be more interest in creating an ammendment that regulates personal lifestyle than repairing the electoral process.
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post Sep 23 2004, 05:20 PM
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Hi Paul,

You got that right!

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Like Ross Perot said during the all party debate. He was asked who he would vote for if he wasn't running... He said, " Ah...give me two bad choices...." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) He was funny!
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