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> What the hell's the deal w/ my trans?, Very hard to get into gear after warm
aircooledboy
post Sep 27 2004, 03:35 PM
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Trany just started doing this. Shifts smooth and solid as a honduh when I start the car. After a short drive (10-15 mins to work), it is an absolute bitch to get into gear, even on a very cool day like today. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Doesn't grind, it won't go into gear. It is like the linkage is stuck. It ain't the clutch, because even if I turn the car off, it still fights me. With the engine running or off, If I grunt it into gear, it will go, and it doesn't grind, but I gotta really yank on it. When I park it, come back an hour or so later, it shifts perfectly again until it gets warm, then we start all over.

I don't even know where to start with this one? Bushings, muffler bearings, a good ass kickin'????

Ideas??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Sep 27 2004, 04:49 PM
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I would be curious to know if anyone has any ideas about this.

My friend had the same thing happed with his tailshifter.

Picked it up used for free, swapped it in, took a little drive and it was shifting perfectly, he said it hardly felt used. Get it out to the track the next day, take a few laps around and it was hard to shift bet. 3rd and 4th. He brought it in and on the next session, it would hardly shift at all -- definitely no 1st and hard in most other gears.

He ended up scraaping it and converting to sideshift.

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post Sep 27 2004, 04:58 PM
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i had the same thing happen and I just tightened up the clutch. I just tightened the nut on the cable at the clutch fork. You might want to look at the cable to see if it's is fraying!
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post Sep 27 2004, 05:01 PM
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How long ago where the bushings replaced??

Maybe theres slack in the trani gears? Dont know.. be interested in the actual cause though...

Paul, but he didnt have any grinding....

If its not going into the gears, and its the clutch/pressureplate whatever, then it should grind....

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post Sep 27 2004, 05:04 PM
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Could this be a case of the clutch cable heating up and stretching (i.e. - routed too close to the exhaust)?
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post Sep 27 2004, 05:06 PM
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Ok you got me there Andy. I would still check the cable. It's an easy fix if that is the cause. Then I would go to the bushings. and if it's none of that it's going to be internal unfortunately.
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post Sep 27 2004, 05:10 PM
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It wouldnt be clutch cable.. I thought for a second that it could be the shift linkage heating up and bla bla bla... but that just didnt make sense.. lol

Check the clearance on the shift linkage, see if it could possibly be rubbing on something.


But my guess is that its internal to the trani... But check everything else (like bushings, clutch cable..) just to eliminate those.

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post Sep 27 2004, 05:15 PM
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Could simply be a marginal clutch adjustment. Clutch clearance should shrink as things warm up (that is, you need more clutch arm travel when warm than when cold).
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post Sep 27 2004, 05:18 PM
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I really hate to state the obvious, and don't want to insult anyones intelligence, but have you checked the tranni fluid level? Has it been changed lately? Please don't ask me how I know this.
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post Sep 27 2004, 05:27 PM
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Oh hey, now THATS an idea!!!
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post Sep 27 2004, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(aircooledboy @ Sep 27 2004, 01:35 PM)
It ain't the clutch, because even if I turn the car off, it still fights me.

Ideas??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Adjust the clutch cable a few turns and I bet you will be surprized. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)
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post Sep 28 2004, 08:39 AM
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Adjust the clutch cable a few turns and I bet you will be surprized.


Alrighty boys, I will try the clutch cable. I couldn't get to this last night because I was tracking down and exhaust leak (header flange gaskets are both gone?) and a non functional stereo.

The clutch cable raises a curious issue for me though. I hadn't put the two things together until now, but maybe they are related. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
When I first put the trans & engine back together, I checked the clutch fork and it didn't move at all. I thought "uh oh, I must have screwed it up somehow", so I slid the trans back off and found that it wasn't screwed up at all. The Renegade fly/pressure plate set up is much taller than the stock parts. The clutch fork/TO bearing are damn near in contact with the pressure plate before the clutch cable is even attached. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I tightened down the cable until I had a normal amount of free play in the pedal, and found that the clutch slipped if I got on it. So, I loosened it up a bit, and the slipping stopped, but now often I have an annoying loud, rapid, clicking noise with the clutch out that sounds like the fork or T.O. riding lightly against the pressure plate. If I pull up on the clutch pedal with my toe, it will stop. I have been meaning to call Renegade for some direction, but I haven't had a chance.

Maybe I am adjusting the clutch wrong on the V8?? BigKat?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Sep 29 2004, 10:44 AM
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Well, you guys were all way the hell off. It was the clutch needing adjustment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)

Tightened her in a bit, problem almost completely resolved. Second is still a little tighter then it ought to be when warm, but I think another half turn, and we'll be prefect.

Thanks boys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Sep 29 2004, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(BIGKAT_83 @ Sep 27 2004, 04:03 PM)
QUOTE(aircooledboy @ Sep 27 2004, 01:35 PM)
It ain't the clutch, because even if I turn the car off, it still fights me.

Ideas??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Adjust the clutch cable a few turns and I bet you will be surprized. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

I rest my case! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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