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> Need help with my 2.0, problems with engine
ChristopherB
post Apr 5 2013, 01:39 PM
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I need some help learning where things go. I got the engine back in the car which has got me yearning to drive!
Where does the wire on the alternator harness that looks like a ground attach? The red one in my hand.
I have two black wires that come together and also look like a ground. I do not know what these are, nor do I know where they attach. They seem to come from the rear of the engine bay in the corner driver side. Please confirm that the brown, red, and green wires from the alt are attached to the relay board properly. They do not have a plug though Jeff sent me one with my new harness. I have no idea how it works, or how to get the terminals to clip into the plug.

I ended up pulling the injectors to install the engine, and I am glad I did as I had the lines too short coming from the rails. Attached ImageAttached Image
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post Apr 5 2013, 04:46 PM
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The connector with the yellow insulator on it is not stock. The wires may or may not be. What colors are they? The lighting is making them look blue to me.

The red wire looks an awful lot like the power wire from the alternator. It should hook onto the same stud on the back of the starter that the main battery cable hooks onto. The battery won't charge with that not connected... (Don't ask how I know this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

Trace all of those wires to the other end to make sure you know where they come from. You can look at the wiring diagrams to see what hooks up to the part at the end.

Your Haynes manual should have a B&W diagram of the relay board with the three alternator control wires labeled for color. Or you can look on the Pelican website for a color version.

The black plastic plug is pretty easy to deal with--you just push the metal contact into the back of the plug. Make sure that the little tab sticking up from the contact is on the same side of the slot in the plug as the notch in the slot. (Look at the front side of the plug, note that they are shaped like a flat letter "T". The tab sticking up fits into the leg of the T.)

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post Apr 5 2013, 05:04 PM
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Thanks,
First lesson learned this week is to take the time to label everything specifically!
So the brown, red, and green wires are on the relay correctly. Yes?
You are right the black wires are not stock but could be a ground for the hal effect sending unit, or the oxygen sensor, so I will just find a ground for that.
The red wire is the power from the alt so now I know where it goes.
Thanks again.
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post Apr 5 2013, 08:09 PM
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"Could be a ground" could also be a hot wire. Hook it to ground and it could catch fire. FIRE BAD!! Figure out where it comes from before you hook it up, please!

Color wiring diagrams can be found here:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/914_electrical_diagrams.htm

They're the same as the ones in your Haynes manual (you have a Haynes manual, right?) but in color.

Relay board diagram:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/parts/Elec...lectric_73E.jpg

For those three wires in question, red goes to the forward connection, brown to the middle-left one, and green to the rear connection. Which matches what you have in that picture, so you should be fine.

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post Apr 6 2013, 07:56 AM
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Thanks Dave.
I do have the Haynes manual, but the link you provided in color was much better.
I talked to the PO yesterday and he said all of his grounds are in black. Looking at some old photos of the car he provided led me to find where he had it grounded. It went straight across the rear of engine bay and attached to the top bolt on the engine case in the center. It is just aft of the three ground connections on the FI harness.
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post Apr 7 2013, 11:20 AM
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Working on the car today and the throttle cable popped off the ball at the pedal cluster. I had just attached the cable to the throttle body and was testing it.
The cable is fine, and it slides freely in the tube. Do I just pop it back on the male socket and see how it works. Is there a tension or geometry issue that would cause this to happen?
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post Apr 7 2013, 11:35 AM
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I popped the cable back on the pedal. I think the throttle butterfly valve stuck and the force popped the cable. However, looking down into the plenum, I see some oil. Is this ok or should I clean it before resuming?
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post Apr 7 2013, 12:04 PM
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I am ready to connect the ignition. I have a dizzy along with a crane ignition set up. I am wondering about the connections My harness coming from the starter has two female slide connectors that mounted to the blue coil. The new set up is all wired, but it also has female slide connectors. Howe should I proceed? I am thinking I should replace the two females on the crane ignition with males, and that connects to the starter harness. Is it that simple?Attached Image
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post Apr 9 2013, 02:37 PM
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here are the two connectors on my car.Attached Image
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post Apr 9 2013, 02:41 PM
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I also have these two connectors on my positive battery cable. One of them was wrapped and the other exposed. Are they used?Attached Image
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QUOTE(ChristopherB @ Apr 9 2013, 12:41 PM) *

I also have these two connectors on my positive battery cable. One of them was wrapped and the other exposed. Are they used?Attached Image


Blower fan motor?
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Thanks. That could be it. Car doesn't have heat or AC.
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Those first wires are all aftermarket. Someone added them, or used them to make repairs. The colors aren't right, the connectors aren't right. You are going to have to trace them to see what's on the other end of the wires. Try to match up that connection with a wiring diagram to see where this end should plug in.

Though if it's related to aftermarket ignition stuff, it won't be in the factory diagrams either...


The heater blower wires should be on the driver's side of the engine compartment, not the passenger's side.

Those wires could be factory. One looks brown, I'm not sure of the color of the other one. It looks kind of like a black wire with a red stripe, which would be the power wire to the coil.

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post Apr 9 2013, 07:14 PM
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Nice car. What color is that? Nepal orange, Signal orange or Phoenix Red?

QUOTE(ChristopherB @ Mar 31 2013, 08:30 PM) *

I did not even know what a valve cover was when I bought this car about 2 years ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The PO was a little worried about selling the car to me because he could tell I was totally clueless. I am really enjoying working on the car, but with the weather improving I am getting anxious to drive the car again. Here is a shot of the car.


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Thanks Dave and dpires,
I don't know the color because while it was originally orange, it was not repainted exactly the same orange.
I have everything connected to the car but the axles. I had to deal with a few fuel leaks but that was simple and I have 29 psi at the fuel rail. Happy about this because, I moved the fuel pump to the front trunk and replaced all the hoses and clamps. At least that was successful.
I just have to go over the setting up of the dizzy and timing.
I am going to have to leave it for a week to go to DisneyWorld with my family, but will post my progress when I get back.
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