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Randal
post May 26 2012, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 25 2012, 01:55 PM) *

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Have never run a rear bar on any of my personal 914s, but have driven several with rear bar...
Properly setup, I have never felt the need for a rear bar.

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WARNING: Personal opinion alert!

I added a rear (stock) bar and it made quite a difference. Not so much in handling, as you can dial in pretty much any type of handling to your personal preference anyways.

What it did do however is that it really helps keeping the rear of the car level and planted during hard cornering.
Many track cars get the same effect by going with very heavy springs and stiff shocks in the rear.

But in my personal opinion, it is beneficial to use a rear bar and be able to run a softer setup on the springs and shocks.
This has allowed me to step down on my rear spring rates from 250lbs to 200lbs yet the car is flatter through the turns and the rear seems to have more "bite" than before.

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If I had a car I was driving on the street I might also use a bar and softer springs and shocks. That would help to keep teeth in your mouth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Guessing that your car, which weighs more than mine, would require some real heavy springs to keep the rear end flat if you didn't have the help of a bar thrown in.

Bill Pickering always runs rear bars and is quite good at getting the whole "system" to work correctly. It does take lots of adjustment to dial in the setting and you'll find yourself changing settings between morning and afternoon sessions to alter behavior.

You can get good balance either way, but my personal preference is to concentrate on the course instead of trying to dial in behavior.
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post May 26 2012, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(Cracker @ May 26 2012, 06:12 AM) *


Cambellcj - Which bolts sheared on your Welt kit???


Last failure I had on the Welt setup. This is due to the hitting the trunk floor / lame geometry issue.

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post May 26 2012, 10:50 AM
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Thats exactly why I modified mine like this:
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post May 26 2012, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ May 26 2012, 09:50 AM) *

Thats exactly why I modified mine like this:
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post May 26 2012, 10:50 PM
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Using the stock bar, mounted upside down, I have never compressed the suspension 3 inches to bottom out.

I was thinking of making the stock bar adjustable at one point.
Never did. The car is fantastic right now.


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