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| Bones |
 May 20 2012, 05:36 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Hardwick, MA Member No.: 8,744 Region Association: North East States  |
Hello out there. I just noticed that my VDO "graduated" temperature gauge (the aftermarket one with the temps on it (120 to 300F)) gives a reading that "jumps" up 20 degrees when I turn on either the parking lights or the head lights. I have tried wiggling wires and tightening the terminal on the sender. I know the sender's resistance goes down as it warms up, since grounding the wire out pegs the needle, so I am thinking that it must be some "partial short" involving the harness (tail lights?). Is there a place in the harness that is particularly vulnerable to this? Is there some other "weirdness" that occurs with these cars?
Car is a '73 2.0 four cylinder, pretty much stock. Thanks for any guidance. -Jim |
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| Mike Bellis |
May 20 2012, 05:43 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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Common problem for an old electrical system. Voltage drop in the system is the cause. You may be able to improve the conductivity at all the grounding studs around the chassis. Clean with small wire wheel. Adding an additional ground from the battery to the engine will help too.
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| windforfun |
May 20 2012, 07:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(kg6dxn @ May 20 2012, 04:43 PM)  Common problem for an old electrical system. Voltage drop in the system is the cause. You may be able to improve the conductivity at all the grounding studs around the chassis. Clean with small wire wheel. Adding an additional ground from the battery to the engine will help too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Your local ground is floating. You shouldn't have to add an additional wire. |
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| Bones |
May 20 2012, 07:46 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Hardwick, MA Member No.: 8,744 Region Association: North East States |
Thank you both. I'll try to get back in there tomorrow and polish and tighten every ground I can find, starting with the trans.
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| 76-914 |
May 21 2012, 11:23 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,503 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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IIRC, the instructions say to use a dedicated 18ga ground. Also, where did you pick up the 12v source?
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| Bones |
May 21 2012, 12:29 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Hardwick, MA Member No.: 8,744 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(76-914 @ May 21 2012, 01:23 PM) IIRC, the instructions say to use a dedicated 18ga ground. Also, where did you pick up the 12v source? I did not install the gauge. It was put in 3 or 4 POs ago and I never noticed this behavior until yesterday. Anyway, I cleaned the ground strap and hardware at the back of the transmission, and the problem seems to be gone. When the problem was discovered, I was testing the single wire to the sending unit, and taking that terminal off the sender and grounding it sends the gauge to maximum, so I think the ground is through the sender. I haven't examined the back of the gauge, but would guess there is only the one wire to it (plus one for the bulb to illuminate it). Jim |
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