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> Fix a six, Like Neil Young says...rust is an insomniac
Luke M
post Apr 20 2021, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 20 2021, 08:37 AM) *

The crossmember looks correct.

If you need pictures of how something goes together on a 70 six, let me know. I can take a picture of ours for you. It is mostly unmolested.

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Clay, The cross member is not correct. Look at the ends where I have it circled.
Go look at your 6. I bet it's flat like I have posted above. The one I took off my 6 is flat as well.


Here's a link to one.. Same as early 911/914-6.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/det....php?id=2277967


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post Apr 20 2021, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(Luke M @ Apr 20 2021, 11:17 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 20 2021, 08:37 AM) *

The crossmember looks correct.

If you need pictures of how something goes together on a 70 six, let me know. I can take a picture of ours for you. It is mostly unmolested.

Clay



Clay, The cross member is not correct. Look at the ends where I have it circled.
Go look at your 6. I bet it's flat like I have posted above. The one I took off my 6 is flat as well.


Here's a link to one.. Same as early 911/914-6.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/det....php?id=2277967


You are right.

I went out and took pictures of the crossmember on the six, and one in the parts pile in the garage. In all my years of owning 914s, I never noticed this difference. The /4 has a rounded end, the /6 has a square end.

You learn something new every day.

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post Apr 20 2021, 02:55 PM
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Is it done yet Jk

You have my # when u need a hand
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post Apr 20 2021, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 20 2021, 02:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Luke M @ Apr 20 2021, 11:17 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 20 2021, 08:37 AM) *

The crossmember looks correct.

If you need pictures of how something goes together on a 70 six, let me know. I can take a picture of ours for you. It is mostly unmolested.

Clay



Clay, The cross member is not correct. Look at the ends where I have it circled.
Go look at your 6. I bet it's flat like I have posted above. The one I took off my 6 is flat as well.


Here's a link to one.. Same as early 911/914-6.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/det....php?id=2277967


You are right.

I went out and took pictures of the crossmember on the six, and one in the parts pile in the garage. In all my years of owning 914s, I never noticed this difference. The /4 has a rounded end, the /6 has a square end.

You learn something new every day.

Clay

There's a long thread on world from a couple years ago about the difference. Some six owners swear their four crossmember was original but it would be odd since Porsche built the six pieces onto the Karmann built bodies at the Porsche factory and would probably not have the 914-4 pieces in the parts bin - but stranger things have happened with these cars.
Lars - I have a powder coated 911 crossmember if you want one. I can't guarantee the finish is the same sheen as your other pieces. Price is half whatever the going rate is (you decide) plus ship.
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post Apr 20 2021, 05:18 PM
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Where do I go from here...
Luke, you were correct. The crossmember ends are round...which makes it a 914 crossmember?
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post Apr 20 2021, 05:23 PM
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The bigger question is how did this car end up with this crossmember? I looked in my stash and fortunately I have two 911 crossmembers. And while they both have square ends, they are different. I'm guessing the bottom one is early, maybe SWB 65-68 and the upper is later, say 69-whenever they came out with the aluminum version.Attached Image
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post Apr 20 2021, 05:24 PM
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post Apr 20 2021, 05:28 PM
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Just another item to get sandblasted and powdercoated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Nobody responded to the antenna question... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I don't want to install the antenna now, as it will be in the way. But I also don't want to install the gas tank now and have to fish the antenna cable behind everything and through the grommet in the firewall when I'm ready to install. But, if the antenna is not able to be separated from the cable at the base...I don't have any options?
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post Apr 20 2021, 06:20 PM
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Lars,

You need the 69 to 73ish 911 cross member. Looks like you may have one on hand.
Just line the 911 one up with the 914 unit . If all lines up use that one.
The antenna wire I believe is crimped into the base so that will not come out.
I recall cutting the one off my car and it was crimped.

You got my # so throw me a text if you need a hand.
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post May 4 2021, 06:40 PM
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So now that my son's car is "almost done" I get to focus on the 6. One thing that troubled me is that I have the new rear lenses, but can't find the housings...anywhere.
Thought I was losing my mind. I looked through all his boxes of spares, nothing. Looked through all my shelves and boxes of parts, nothing. Started to wonder if his tail lights were actually mine...texted Brant and he assured me that the tail lights on Leif's car were the ones it came with as a project. Ok, one more 3 hour afternoon lap around the shop looking in obscure places for the housings ...and nada. So I posted a WTB expecting to meet the new "scammer du jour" who knows that his buddy has just what I need and was I ready to purchase...ugh
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post May 4 2021, 06:43 PM
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Made a few calls...found some leads but just odds and ends. Nothing clicked. Thinking I was going to have to buy a left and right separately and restore...wasn't appealing. I hate losing or misplacing "stuff". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif)
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post May 4 2021, 06:48 PM
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Tada...trumpets in the distance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
So I am not going nuts...yet. I mentioned my frustration to my son in not being able to find the tail light housings, and that I had literally torn up the shop to look for the parts.
He asked if there was any way I had taken them with the car to the painter to assist in dialing in the replacement corners I had welded in prior to paint. Car went to the painter in August 2019...yes it is possible. I texted the painter who said there were a set of housings sitting in an old rusty targa with a lot of other spare 911 parts. I drove down to Denver not knowing what to expect, and there they were...not crushed, still with the old cracked lenses. Fortunately they hadn't been thrown into a dumpster with the rest of the spent 911 parts! He used them to fit the housings and put them somewhere while painting...and forgot. Thus they spent 18 months outside. No big deal, I will remove the old lenses, clean them up. New seals and lenses and we are good to go. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)
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post May 4 2021, 07:23 PM
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Progress on the fuel tank this weekend when I wasn't looking for the lost tail lights.
New fuel lines and clamps and filter and hose (high pressure) getting ready to re-install tank.
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Fuel lines installed. Need another hand to install tank.
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post May 4 2021, 07:32 PM
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post May 4 2021, 07:46 PM
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Glad you found those lights.

Ready for plaiting?
I have a bag needing to be silver before long
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post May 9 2021, 07:23 PM
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All the other stuff that needed to be done to install the gas tank...is finally done. Actually that is a lie. When I installed the tank, I had to remove it two times...once for the overflow drain, and second for the tank straps. Now all good.
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Added the A-arms and tbars today. Bumped the tbars to 21mm just because I like a firm ride.
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