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what are the odds?, windshield r&r |
lotus_65 |
Jul 11 2012, 09:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,608 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region |
i'm in the process of going to the "murdered out" look (satin black trim, no chrome).
i have the flexible rubber windshield strip from mark @ 914 rubber and i'm calculating the odds i can:
all without breaking the glass. i have more time than money right now and i think it would cost at least a few hundred bucks for a company to come out and do it, which i can't exactly part with right now. what do you guys think? |
SLITS |
Jul 11 2012, 09:46 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Generally, from what I have experienced and seen the windshield will crack when you try to put the cutting wire through the corner of the windshield (usually the upper). I would think that if you heated the butyl with a hair dryer or heat gun to soften it prior to trying to push the wire through, you would have a greater chance of success.
Regardless, good luck. |
ThePaintedMan |
Jul 11 2012, 09:51 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
I never cracked mine pulling it out or reinstalling. However, I TOTALLY f'ed the seal up that I got from Mark. I didn't get instructions, but for the life of me I couldn't get the seal to stay on the glass edge correctly. It looked fine at first, but obviously I screwed up because the lower edge of the seal is now lifting in places. You might have different results, but either way, you need someone to help you. I had two people helping me and we still didn't get it right. At some point I'm just going to have a shop do it. Sometimes there are just things that should be left to professionals.
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toolguy |
Jul 11 2012, 10:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,267 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
Trust "Slits' on this one. . . I'm extremely careful and couldn't pull it off. . . even the tiniest nick will produce a stress point and the glass will crack if moved. .
When I ran the piano wire under the corner, it cause an extremely tiny nick in the top corner, , , I had it loose all the way around but when I pushed it up from the rear it first got a crack about 1/2 inch long exactly at the nick . . . every time I touched it, it got bigger. . .But what do you have to lose? I found a new windshield for $250 locally. . |
SLITS |
Jul 11 2012, 10:27 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
I never cracked mine pulling it out or reinstalling. However, I TOTALLY f'ed the seal up that I got from Mark. I didn't get instructions, but for the life of me I couldn't get the seal to stay on the glass edge correctly. It looked fine at first, but obviously I screwed up because the lower edge of the seal is now lifting in places. You might have different results, but either way, you need someone to help you. I had two people helping me and we still didn't get it right. At some point I'm just going to have a shop do it. Sometimes there are just things that should be left to professionals. That seal is installed about 1" at a time carefully and DO NOT STRETCH it. If it's the same that I have, it has butyl in the groove to stick it to the edge and is a PAIN IN THE ASS. I've done 3 and only had one lift in the corner. |
burton73 |
Jul 11 2012, 11:16 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,524 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
Just in removing the glass on two, I was 50/50 with a helper. I went very slow and heated the wire. I was so close on my six almost there and clink.
For sure I will get a pro to put the new glass back in. Bob |
ThePaintedMan |
Jul 11 2012, 11:36 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
That seal is installed about 1" at a time carefully and DO NOT STRETCH it. If it's the same that I have, it has butyl in the groove to stick it to the edge and is a PAIN IN THE ASS. I've done 3 and only had one lift in the corner. Thats the one SLITS. Mark sells good stuff but I'm too stupid to get it right. I think when the window butyl heated up the whole thing slid down and thats how it got screwed up. Personally, I'd rather just pay someone to do it. They have the right tools and if they screw it up, its on them, not me. |
lotus_65 |
Jul 11 2012, 12:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,608 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region |
all these comments sound like good advice.
i do have my son as a helper, so i wasn't going to fly solo. I was also going to make a jig from suction cup handles, then use a block and tackle setup to uniformly lift... it sounds like a good idea when i think about it, but maybe the safer bet is to bite the bullet and have someone else do it. |
SLITS |
Jul 11 2012, 01:40 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Installation is a breeze with 5/16" Butyl Tape from CarQuest (or flaps of your choice). We stretch the 5/16" just a tad and believe it or not, the 1/4" seems to be just a tad to small.
It comes with pads that sets the bottom depth and then it just a matter of making sure it is centered. Set it on the pads, let it lean back to the butyl, push down around the entire windshield to secure it to the butyl, blue tape it for 24 hours then pull the tape and pads ... wella .. installed. |
bandjoey |
Jul 11 2012, 02:47 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
My butyl was so dry the windshield lifted up with no stick. Get some HT glass suction handles and 2 people. U can do this.
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76-914 |
Jul 11 2012, 02:58 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,502 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
If you do try to pull it yourself tape the glass from inside first. Fewer chard's to vacuum, later.
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lotus_65 |
Jul 11 2012, 03:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,608 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region |
If you do try to pull it yourself tape the glass from inside first. Fewer chard's to vacuum, later. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) |
LotusJoe |
Jul 11 2012, 03:40 PM
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Europa Twink Driver Group: Members Posts: 406 Joined: 30-November 09 From: Southern California Member No.: 11,085 Region Association: Southern California |
i'm in the process of going to the "murdered out" look (satin black trim, no chrome). i have the flexible rubber windshield strip from mark @ 914 rubber and i'm calculating the odds i can:
i have more time than money right now and i think it would cost at least a few hundred bucks for a company to come out and do it, which i can't exactly part with right now. what do you guys think? Have you considered having a new one installed. I had a new windshield done a few months ago. It was $220.00 including the new windshield. Took the guy about an hour and a half. If you used your old glass an installer would probably only charge you $100.00 or so. And they supply the materials. So really your only out about $50.00 for labor. That way if it gets broke it's on him to replace. |
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