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> Thermostat bellows, revisited
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post Aug 5 2012, 11:11 AM
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This one arrived Saturday from Awesome Powdercoat. I havent installed it yet, but thought I'd post a couple of photos.

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The opening temps are appropriate for the TypeIV, showing the markings....

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So far, it popped right into the mount with a factory like fit. Very nice. I may try to get it installed today, and will throw in some pics in action...made hier in das gut old USA.
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post Aug 5 2012, 12:36 PM
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It's pretty. Nice job!
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post Aug 5 2012, 01:07 PM
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did they refubish the bellows ???
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post Aug 5 2012, 01:16 PM
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see this

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1062980
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post Aug 5 2012, 01:19 PM
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Yeah, that's it. The one I received for the T4 opens at 85-90* C.
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post Aug 5 2012, 01:25 PM
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http://www.awesomepowdercoat.com/thermosta...ed_rebuilt.html
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post Aug 7 2012, 12:28 PM
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Got it installed today, and it worked perfectly. Seemed to cut warmup time by about half, and that was with local driving that usually doesn't reach full temp (210*ish). When it reached that temp, I checked the flap operation, and it was full open. So I'm happy with the performance. I'll keep an eye on it for the next couple days to ensure its working properly, so far, so good!

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post Aug 7 2012, 10:07 PM
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I want a business that has name that starts with "Awesome"!
How can you go wrong? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 21 2012, 03:05 PM
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Did you also order the cable from Awesome, and if so did it come with the union nut on the end?
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post Aug 21 2012, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(jimkelly @ Aug 5 2012, 12:16 PM) *


Cool! Thanks for posting the link ........... so this samba one (- opening temp range "65-70" ) will open sooner than the 85-90* C ......... I'm ok with that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 21 2012, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(gothspeed @ Aug 21 2012, 05:20 PM) *

QUOTE(jimkelly @ Aug 5 2012, 12:16 PM) *


Cool! Thanks for posting the link ........... so this samba one (- opening temp range "65-70" ) will open sooner than the 85-90* C ......... I'm ok with that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



You can also get an 85-90* one from volkaholic (Samba). Looks nice, fits perfectly, works well, and comes with union nut for cable (at least if you buy a new cable, not sure otherwise).
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post Aug 21 2012, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(somd914 @ Aug 21 2012, 02:40 PM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Aug 21 2012, 05:20 PM) *

QUOTE(jimkelly @ Aug 5 2012, 12:16 PM) *


Cool! Thanks for posting the link ........... so this samba one (- opening temp range "65-70" ) will open sooner than the 85-90* C ......... I'm ok with that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



You can also get an 85-90* one from volkaholic (Samba). Looks nice, fits perfectly, works well, and comes with union nut for cable (at least if you buy a new cable, not sure otherwise).

Yes, that was the option on the ad ....... though I think for agressive driving the lower one should be ok. when i get one, i am gonna need everything, cable, little pulley and bellows bracket ..... some of it may have to be fabricated ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 6 2012, 12:07 PM
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Nice Thread! I'm in the process of adding the stock cooling system to my 2.3 type 4. I ordered the bellows from the same outfit you did. I ordered the roller(pulley) from AA. Got the flaps and some tin, from a fella on EBAY. Thanks for the picks and all......Awesome!
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post Sep 6 2012, 01:44 PM
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Arty, please keep me abreast of what it takes to install the flaps and bellows again. My Previous Owner removed mine.
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post Sep 6 2012, 06:36 PM
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So far,so good. The bellows have been performing flawlessly. I drove the car to Lime Rock last weekend, and short of my still persistent start up idle issue, the car ran at a consistent 215 (according to the gauge) degrees, heavy traffic notwithstanding. (Throgs Neck Bridge, always a jam)

Based on previous warm up times, it's about half the time. Oil just doesn't transfer heat like water, so it's not gonna be like a Honda. I do feel that there is a benefit to a quicker warm up, as once I get there, the idle is no longer a problem....

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post Sep 7 2012, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(Porschef @ Sep 6 2012, 05:36 PM) *

So far,so good. The bellows have been performing flawlessly. I drove the car to Lime Rock last weekend, and short of my still persistent start up idle issue, the car ran at a consistent 215 (according to the gauge) degrees, heavy traffic notwithstanding. (Throgs Neck Bridge, always a jam)

Based on previous warm up times, it's about half the time. Oil just doesn't transfer heat like water, so it's not gonna be like a Honda. I do feel that there is a benefit to a quicker warm up, as once I get there, the idle is no longer a problem....

Joe

That is good to hear! Thanks for reporting back your experience (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ........ now I just have to order mine, along with some related parts from Mikey914 .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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post Sep 8 2012, 10:46 AM
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As a follow up...I noticed on the way back from Conn. last week that it took longer than what I expected to warm up. Figgered it was just that there was no traffic (imagine!) but didn't pay it much nevermind cause it was running right at 210-215. Then noticed the same thing yesterday morning. After it cooled I changed the oil, and while under there noticed something hanging down... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

It was the cable nut of the bellows, dangling... Then I remembered only finger tightening it when I installed the bellows,..dumbass... Hooked it back up, snugged it with the trusty 10mm wrench, and drove the wife to see her girlfriends. Back the way it was (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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