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> Deck height measurements driving me crazy, Need advice
stugray
post Oct 14 2012, 02:06 PM
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Ok, so I bought the deck height measurement tools from the group buy.
But I cannot figure out exactly how the OP intended to use the middle plate.

I have been trying to measure my deck height accurately for weeks now and I either am not doing it right, or I have a problem.

I have the EMW AA cylinders & KB Hypereutectic pistons - brand new.
I am measuring with no shims under the cyls.
I bolt the holddown tool on two cyls with pistons installed and torque to spec (24 ft-lbs)

I set TDC on the cyl I am about to measure with a mag base & dial indicator using the middle of the piston as reference.

I then set a VERY straight edge across both cylinders and clamp it down.
I then measure the top of the cylinder mating surface down to the very edge of the piston using a dial indicator/depth gauge.
I repeat the measurement at least 5 times and average the results.

I am getting measurements that vary from .022 to .032 and they can vary by up to .0067 across a single piston (front to rear). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
(measurements at the same spot are repeateable within less than .001)

When we are trying to get these deck heights to match to within a few thousandths, I cannot see how that can be done when the piston can be off by more than 5 thousandths front to rear.

Does this mean I have bent rods or misaligned wrist pin bushings?

I had the entire rotating assembly balanced, so I would hope they would have caught something bent.


I guess my next steps will be to shuffle the pistons around and see if the measurements follow the pistons.
If they dont, I might need to move rods.
Can all 4 rods be removed & replaced without splitting the case again?

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post Nov 8 2012, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Nov 8 2012, 10:58 AM) *

Thanks - he said that he would machine all four registers down to the worst case register, #4 is minus 8 thousandths.

However the opposite side seems to be perfect & flat.
If the #1 & 2 side is perfect, is there any reason to machine it down to match #4?

Also - Where can I get replacement head studs?
I cant seem to find any online without buying a full set of ARP studs.

Stu


EMS has stroker head studs, they may also have studs in std length

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post Nov 8 2012, 06:28 PM
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David - Sorry, but what is "EMS"?

I know of EMW (European Motor Works).
A quick google search didnt find it.

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post Nov 8 2012, 06:41 PM
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EBS, not EMS. Engine Builder's Supply in Sparks NV.
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Oct 17 2012, 04:42 AM) *

Please put up some pictures of what you are doing.

Zach




Or better yet a video!
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post Dec 25 2012, 01:35 PM
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I had the cases decked and did another measurement. They are all close enough to proceed. Next I checked my valve train geometry for valve clearance and now I am sending the heads for some machining to do a valve job & set the CR. After that I will recheck everything when I put it back together. I will try to get some video of the process. I have another thread about figuring out my rocker ratios.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=200247

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