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> Can you supercharge a 914
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:06 PM
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I have a 914 and have heard somethings about supercharging a 914 2.0 but i want to know if you can and if you can is it worth it
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:08 PM
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Anything can be supercharged. The hard part is trying to drive it off the motor.
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:10 PM
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The experts say "NO" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'll wait till Tony Bray gets through fooling around with his 912E for judgement.
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:15 PM
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I got two words for ya. E-RAM!!!! NUF SAID (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:19 PM
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I see no reason why not. Its all in the packaging.

Depends on how your currently setup FI vs Carbs & how good you are at setting up ignition & fueling would be one factor.
Next is what type of charger to use. Roots vs Scroll. Then how to get the thing turning Belt Vs Chain.

However a turbo would be easier to install. Look for one with a oil only cooling system. Negates you having to fit a water system. Exhaust pipes already go to rear of car so relatively easy hot side plumbing. Cold side requires a intake & a pipe connecting to intake runners.

All in though its quite a lot of effort either way, but i'd be a cool project to see.

Wild idea you could have 2 small turbo's. 1 on each bank. Feeding into a intake plenum to even out boost differences across sides. Has that been done before??
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:20 PM
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rpm in port orange florida did it years ago, they used a roots style blower and used a factory ac front crank pulley to drive the blower. it was carbed with a smaller holley as i recall, they had a few atricles in vw&porsche( european car) about it. I have all the magazines from the early 780's to mid 90's ....i will try to dig it up.
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:24 PM
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yaya, I remember this kit.... it's the one I have been looking for since 1986.

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post Nov 3 2004, 05:30 PM
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Over half a million posts!? WTF is up with that?

You berry funny guy.
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:34 PM
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Dan, it's all about Ohio.

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post Nov 3 2004, 05:43 PM
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My gawd! there's that Ohio thang again.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
The only thing I remember about Ohio is there's 4 dead there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Nov 3 2004, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 3 2004, 03:24 PM)
yaya, I remember this kit.... it's the one I have been looking for since 1986.

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geeze, i know weher one is...the engine from the car in the article, has twinplug heads too....the guy's name is ej, he lives in tuxedo ny. i will go talk to him for you
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post Nov 3 2004, 06:24 PM
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No shit!? Do! Do! Hey, if anything, we'd all benefit from having a starting point for a new rig..

I remember that car!

Blowers sound awesome.



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post Nov 3 2004, 06:39 PM
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post Nov 3 2004, 06:43 PM
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Ford 3.8 Supercharger (Eaton) - upside down, driven off the "behind the fan" a/c pulley. Weber manifolds, with one off intermediate tubes and a square plenum - hmmmmmmmm - Creative one might say.
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post Nov 3 2004, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(nickg @ Nov 3 2004, 04:18 PM)
QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 3 2004, 03:24 PM)
yaya, I remember this kit.... it's the one I have been looking for since 1986.

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geeze, i know weher one is...the engine from the car in the article, has twinplug heads too....the guy's name is ej, he lives in tuxedo ny. i will go talk to him for you

Otto built it, didn't he?
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post Nov 3 2004, 06:50 PM
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Uhhhhh, why does the exhaust come off the side of the head in that picture?
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post Nov 3 2004, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(markd@mac.com @ Nov 3 2004, 05:50 PM)
Uhhhhh, why does the exhaust come off the side of the head in that picture?

It's a type 1 engine hidden behind a type 4 blower housing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 3 2004, 08:24 PM
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You can supercharge anything you want if you know what you are doing.
You will be limited to around 4 or 5 psi boost unless you modify the stock fuel injection. driving the unit is a PITA but anything is possible.

BTW there is an urban myth floating around that twin turbos are better than one.
In almost all cases that is not true, especially on a type 4.

If you spend an incredible amount of money on R&D you can make two small turbos work a little better than one, except on a type 4.

if you don't have several million laying around forget about twin turbos. it just isn't worth it.
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post Nov 3 2004, 09:00 PM
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When Charleton Heston screamed, "YOU DAMNED DIRTY APES!" he had the same look as I have right now... mike..

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post Nov 3 2004, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(mikez @ Nov 3 2004, 04:50 PM)
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QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 3 2004, 03:24 PM)
yaya, I remember this kit.... it's the one I have been looking for since 1986.

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geeze, i know weher one is...the engine from the car in the article, has twinplug heads too....the guy's name is ej, he lives in tuxedo ny. i will go talk to him for you

Otto built it, didn't he?

no, as i said it was done by rpm in port orange florida, they were big into the knight-tech turbos for 911's(now protomotive turbos) the original car was a 1.8 liter. they had custom made the twin plug setup along with the supercharger. theuy i know worked there and has that engine(it maybe the same car) but it is in a steelflaired white car, i almost bought it like 10 years ago. it sits in a garage on the backside of Tuxedo high school on the little hilly side road
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