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Can you supercharge a 914 |
DAKS914 |
Nov 3 2004, 05:06 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 3-November 04 From: Anaheim,CA Member No.: 3,056 |
I have a 914 and have heard somethings about supercharging a 914 2.0 but i want to know if you can and if you can is it worth it
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hargray2 |
Nov 3 2004, 05:08 PM
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fuh-q Group: Members Posts: 302 Joined: 12-December 03 From: hardeeville,sc Member No.: 1,432 |
Anything can be supercharged. The hard part is trying to drive it off the motor.
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SLITS |
Nov 3 2004, 05:10 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
The experts say "NO" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I'll wait till Tony Bray gets through fooling around with his 912E for judgement. |
sanman |
Nov 3 2004, 05:15 PM
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Leaving California Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 17-June 04 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 2,219 Region Association: None |
I got two words for ya. E-RAM!!!! NUF SAID (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Rough_Rider |
Nov 3 2004, 05:19 PM
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Smurf Zone Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Beaverton, OR Member No.: 2,547 |
I see no reason why not. Its all in the packaging.
Depends on how your currently setup FI vs Carbs & how good you are at setting up ignition & fueling would be one factor. Next is what type of charger to use. Roots vs Scroll. Then how to get the thing turning Belt Vs Chain. However a turbo would be easier to install. Look for one with a oil only cooling system. Negates you having to fit a water system. Exhaust pipes already go to rear of car so relatively easy hot side plumbing. Cold side requires a intake & a pipe connecting to intake runners. All in though its quite a lot of effort either way, but i'd be a cool project to see. Wild idea you could have 2 small turbo's. 1 on each bank. Feeding into a intake plenum to even out boost differences across sides. Has that been done before?? |
nickg |
Nov 3 2004, 05:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 501 Joined: 30-August 04 From: franklin, nj Member No.: 2,652 |
rpm in port orange florida did it years ago, they used a roots style blower and used a factory ac front crank pulley to drive the blower. it was carbed with a smaller holley as i recall, they had a few atricles in vw&porsche( european car) about it. I have all the magazines from the early 780's to mid 90's ....i will try to dig it up.
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redshift |
Nov 3 2004, 05:24 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
yaya, I remember this kit.... it's the one I have been looking for since 1986.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Miles |
hargray2 |
Nov 3 2004, 05:30 PM
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fuh-q Group: Members Posts: 302 Joined: 12-December 03 From: hardeeville,sc Member No.: 1,432 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) Miles---
Over half a million posts!? WTF is up with that? You berry funny guy. |
redshift |
Nov 3 2004, 05:34 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
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Bruce Allert |
Nov 3 2004, 05:43 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
My gawd! there's that Ohio thang again.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
The only thing I remember about Ohio is there's 4 dead there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ..........b (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
nickg |
Nov 3 2004, 06:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 501 Joined: 30-August 04 From: franklin, nj Member No.: 2,652 |
QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 3 2004, 03:24 PM) yaya, I remember this kit.... it's the one I have been looking for since 1986. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Miles geeze, i know weher one is...the engine from the car in the article, has twinplug heads too....the guy's name is ej, he lives in tuxedo ny. i will go talk to him for you |
redshift |
Nov 3 2004, 06:24 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
No shit!? Do! Do! Hey, if anything, we'd all benefit from having a starting point for a new rig..
I remember that car! Blowers sound awesome. M |
JeffBowlsby |
Nov 3 2004, 06:39 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,490 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
'course they can...
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SLITS |
Nov 3 2004, 06:43 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Ford 3.8 Supercharger (Eaton) - upside down, driven off the "behind the fan" a/c pulley. Weber manifolds, with one off intermediate tubes and a square plenum - hmmmmmmmm - Creative one might say.
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Joe Bob |
Nov 3 2004, 06:50 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(nickg @ Nov 3 2004, 04:18 PM) QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 3 2004, 03:24 PM) yaya, I remember this kit.... it's the one I have been looking for since 1986. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Miles geeze, i know weher one is...the engine from the car in the article, has twinplug heads too....the guy's name is ej, he lives in tuxedo ny. i will go talk to him for you Otto built it, didn't he? |
McMark |
Nov 3 2004, 06:50 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Uhhhhh, why does the exhaust come off the side of the head in that picture?
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SLITS |
Nov 3 2004, 06:56 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(markd@mac.com @ Nov 3 2004, 05:50 PM) Uhhhhh, why does the exhaust come off the side of the head in that picture? It's a type 1 engine hidden behind a type 4 blower housing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
Sammy |
Nov 3 2004, 08:24 PM
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. Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 178 |
You can supercharge anything you want if you know what you are doing.
You will be limited to around 4 or 5 psi boost unless you modify the stock fuel injection. driving the unit is a PITA but anything is possible. BTW there is an urban myth floating around that twin turbos are better than one. In almost all cases that is not true, especially on a type 4. If you spend an incredible amount of money on R&D you can make two small turbos work a little better than one, except on a type 4. if you don't have several million laying around forget about twin turbos. it just isn't worth it. |
redshift |
Nov 3 2004, 09:00 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
When Charleton Heston screamed, "YOU DAMNED DIRTY APES!" he had the same look as I have right now... mike..
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) Slits must live in a pyramid, he stays pretty damned sharp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) M |
nickg |
Nov 3 2004, 09:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 501 Joined: 30-August 04 From: franklin, nj Member No.: 2,652 |
QUOTE(mikez @ Nov 3 2004, 04:50 PM) QUOTE(nickg @ Nov 3 2004, 04:18 PM) QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 3 2004, 03:24 PM) yaya, I remember this kit.... it's the one I have been looking for since 1986. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Miles geeze, i know weher one is...the engine from the car in the article, has twinplug heads too....the guy's name is ej, he lives in tuxedo ny. i will go talk to him for you Otto built it, didn't he? no, as i said it was done by rpm in port orange florida, they were big into the knight-tech turbos for 911's(now protomotive turbos) the original car was a 1.8 liter. they had custom made the twin plug setup along with the supercharger. theuy i know worked there and has that engine(it maybe the same car) but it is in a steelflaired white car, i almost bought it like 10 years ago. it sits in a garage on the backside of Tuxedo high school on the little hilly side road |
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