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> N2Deep Build! Rusty '71 1.7L, Moving trying to get it back up and rolling chassis
Dasnowman
post Nov 22 2012, 12:07 AM
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Am I in 2 deep with my car? lol not the 90's awesome beat N2deep back to the hotel even though I had to listen to it again and it made me smile! lol summer of 92.

Anyway back to cars so I bought the 914 this pass summer got a killer deal $1500. Knew that the engine wasn't running guy said it was running/rebuilt when he bought it 20 years ago. but was missing efi system? Paint job was crap but all body seemed really straight Batt Tray was toast but came with a new one, hell hole, longs and everything else seemed ok rust wise. So I stripped all the exterior paint to metal 3-4 layers of paint and up to 2-3" of bondo in a few places. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Turns out this car must have been sideswippped on both sides and sandwiched in 3 car accicent over the years and that's why so many paint changes.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Every panel on the car seems to dented or deeply guage in one way or another... need a new hood and passanger door for sure.
So now the car been totally primed in self edging primer on the outer panels. I'm remove the ratty interior and start removing the tar on the floor boards seem ok but there is 2 x 8" under the driver seat in the cannel that needs replacing. Start removing the under coating on the front drivers side wheel well rusted a few spots right through to the water channel for the hood weather stripping... and all the channel under the weather stripping seems to be half rotten

So here is my dilemma it's a 71 that was going to be a fun budget build to auto cross or do a few track days in and was planning to have it running for the summer. I'm on EI right now so I have the time between job interviews and job hunting but no money to get things done.

So what to do with the car I don't have the money to sand blast the underneth and it's not like a bug where you can take the front and rear fenders off to get in there. And I can't get into there with grinders and sand paper etc. to clean up the seams and dents etc under the under coating. But at the same time I don't want to leave it the way it is and the rust get worse.

So my original plan was just to.
1) get all the old paint off inside and out and primer it.
2) Though on some GT F/G flares front and rear. and 916 bumpers.
3) Pull interior out prime, paint maybe a roll cage and stiffening for chasis then though some racing buckets in.
4)Get some bigger tires
5) Pull engine, take off heads, check everything out, clean it up, maybe through a bigger cam for some carbs.
6) Run new gas lines maybe big enough for when I'm working again afford to do an STi swap. But for now just the 1.7. If the 1.7 is dead mabe have to buy a used one for now.

Now I'm looking at $$$ for body work, money $$$ for sand blasting, $$$ for new hood and door, money for all rubber on car just crumbles if you move or touch it, $$$ for a welder to fix the rust issues... and that's not even getting into the engine and tranny and brakes so ya I guess there is Nothing called a a budget build with these cars lol.

Anyway we will see where this build leads if you have the time you don't have the money and if you have the money you don't have the time and that sucks either way!

Now I know why so many of you are so pissed when people part a perfectly good car. I think the only a sane person would do that if they didn't have the title or the car was stolen.

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post Nov 22 2012, 05:25 AM
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I admire your perseverance to this point!

By doing the work yourself you are saving a LOT of money! The downside is that it will take a LONG to get finished.

When I first got into 914's I couldn't understand why people parted cars that looked worth saving. Now that I am almost through a major rust repair project (see the Scottyb thread on my car) I understand why rusty cars are scrapped. It is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH less expensive to buy a solid car at the outset!

Good luck with your project. You have made great progress!
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post Nov 24 2012, 12:03 PM
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Made some more progress last and this week! Good news yesterday was I was able to get the head lights, relays, power all working to the front, but the bad news was the lights barely poped up they were so rusty and seized up so I had to disasseble everything.

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post Nov 24 2012, 12:17 PM
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snowman, looks like you're making progress. If you want to play around testing different color combinations, one of the guys here built this tool. Very cool. Here's the configuration I came up with for my 914-SHO V6.

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post Dec 5 2012, 03:45 AM
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snowman, looks like you're making progress. If you want to play around testing different color combinations, one of the guys here built this tool. Very cool. Here's the configuration I came up with for my 914-SHO V6.

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Nice build you have going on the SHO build, how did you manage to save the photo from the 914 configurator?


Been busy on my build this week so far!

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Did some mocking up of the fender flares, cut the fenders away and did some trimming on the f/g flares.



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post Jan 6 2013, 02:07 AM
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I don't know what's wrong with me but I guess I'm just to picky to stop at just having this done cheap and easy.. UP to now I have spent under 1500 for the car and about $200 in sand paper, wire wheels and self edging primer and another $250 on front and rear flares. Tools mig welder, dolly, rivnut gun, more sockets and primer and paint gun bring it up to another $600 not bad for all new not the best quality tools but it's not like I'll be painting or welding hundreds of cars.

This week pulled all glass, gas tank, dash cap and top dash what a pain that was. Cleaned all glass and packaged it for storage but windshield didn't make it and side windows have some scratches not sure if they got scratched during removal or just covered under 20 years dust and didn't notice when I bought it.

Will have to pull the engine and figure out if I can manage to keep the wiring harness in for balasting or do that too, really want to keep in in and work around it to save time and headaches. It's not going to be a show car or anything just a weekend driver and mainly track or auto crossing.


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post Jan 6 2013, 04:07 AM
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post Feb 19 2013, 01:08 AM
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Finally some good news pulled the engine and tranny that was sitting in the car 20+ years, cleaned the intake tube and sprayed some lube in the intake valves, spark plug holes, and valve train. I also used some Lucus preassembly lube on all those areas too. Worked engine back and forth till it started moving freely then hooked up jumper cables from my truck to the starter + and - then used a little jumper to turn over the engine. Did a compression test, was amazed was 145-150psi in all cylinders so looks like engine wise I should be able to get this running for the summer.

Also have been busy stripping the rest of the car to get ready for sandblasting... Lumming wiring to protect it from sandblasting and scraping rest of the under the car need taller stands barely fit under the car.

Also for anyone stripping the interior tar or under coating make sure "YOU BUY A MULTI TOOL WITH A SCRAPPER ATTACHMENT" this will save you a ton of time trust me.


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post Feb 19 2013, 02:09 AM
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Cool on the compression test ... those are good numbers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 22 2013, 01:58 AM
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Some things never cease to amaze me first the case of the tranny was chipped and I knew the engine tray and inner right wheel house needed some work but this must be one of the grossest cover ups.


They used sheets of tin, a little sealer, hundreds of sheet metal screws, duct tape then spray painted over it. You would think they would have rust protect it or at least cut the rusty metal out??


I already have the replacement engine shelf and right upper wheel house metal sitting at the shipping depot hopefully there is no other suprises while I'm in there. I also picked up a Mig welder on a black friday sale I'm still dying to try out on the car..

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post Feb 27 2013, 04:37 PM
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Needed a change on what I have been working on, decided to up date to gauges as the rims of the gauges where rusty so they needed to come a part anyway. I wasn't sure if I was going to like it or not, looks a lot cleaner and fresh..Hopefully they light up nice. Might get orange bulbs or LED's to Match my DEFI gauges I took out of my Suby.


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post Mar 9 2013, 08:50 PM
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I'm really excited dropped the teener off on Friday to get sand blasted. I ended up sand blasting some smaller stuff head light buckets, fog lights, gauge holder, intake manifold or what ever it's called...

Today I picked up some omni epoxy white primer gallon and some other painting supplies and stuff....
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post Mar 9 2013, 11:36 PM
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Where are you located? I see three locations in your signature.

I'm wright below the Aldergroove crossing, half way to Bellingham

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Where are you located? I see three locations in your signature.

I'm wright below the Aldergroove crossing, half way to Bellingham

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post Mar 10 2013, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(speed metal army @ Mar 9 2013, 10:48 PM) *

QUOTE(NORD @ Mar 9 2013, 09:36 PM) *

Where are you located? I see three locations in your signature.

I'm wright below the Aldergroove crossing, half way to Bellingham

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Trickery Nord.....Hes a Canadian!Gasp!Living in Canada!
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I'm down at the cabin every couple of weekends @ Lake Whatcome just now picked up the paint supplies at Wesco on Iowa Street great guys there really helpfull and gave a deal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

And yes I'm a Canadian that lives in PoCompton. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)

I never knew that the fog light rings are brass think I'll clear them and paint the housings black.
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You have a place on the Lake? Sounds like a good Teener party place for the

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post Mar 10 2013, 04:12 PM
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You have a place on the Lake? Sounds like a good Teener party place for the

Summer. get your car done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)



I wish it was mine it's the inlaws. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Ye Yes really want to get it going for the summer so much to do okok have to clean the garage so ther is room for the car when it comes back from blasting.
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Last week dropped the car off to finally get sand blasted and while I was there I used the sand blast cabinet to clean up some smaller pieces. Like head light buckets, dash gauge holder, intake runners and a few other things.




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The Teener on the ride to the blasters!


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Cleaned up garage, had about five buckets of this under coating, seam sealer and tar sound deading... must have been about 30- 40lbs of it..

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I left the wiring harness in the sand blaster said it wasn't going to be a problem to work around.. Then I realized when I epoxy prime and paint it, the harness will probably will get in the way anyway but I didn't want to cut or wreck the wiring harness or plugs ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I have loom on all the wires to protect them from sand and paint and have enough left over to recover harnesses after paint. I was also hoping that it will speed up the process of getting this car drivable for the summer.

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Make sure you get all the blast media out of those intake tubes, especially if they used glass bead in the blast cabinet. Glass bead(s) will destroy the internals of an engine in no time flat.
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post Mar 15 2013, 01:57 AM
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Thought I would add some sandblast photos as requested...lol

Didn't have them blast body panels as I already prepped them..

I also had them blast engine tin,gas tank & reserve, face of rims, dash blasted. I blasted a bunch of stuff myself today as well while I was waiting for them to finish up. Like a bunch of chrome trim that I`m going to do in semi gloss or flat black. I have to say blasting chrome is fun never knew it sparked like crazy looked like stars shooting out of the blasting gun!



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