 My 2.0 eats hella oil |
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| kkid |
 Nov 25 2012, 01:52 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California  |
Hey guys,
I think my 2.0 w/d-jet is needing a help. It eats a lot of oil and smells bad from the exhaust pipe. And the gas mileage is bad, too(17miles/gal). I might have to find a rebuilt or a good used motor when the original motor is out of the car. Now, what should I visually check when I buy a motor? Thanks in advance, kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| oldschool |
Nov 25 2012, 02:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(kkid @ Nov 25 2012, 11:52 AM)  Hey guys, I think my 2.0 w/d-jet is needing a help. It eats a lot of oil and smells bad from the exhaust pipe. And the gas mileage is bad, too(17miles/gal). I might have to find a rebuilt or a good used motor when the original motor is out of the car. Now, what should I visually check when I buy a motor? Thanks in advance, kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) How old are u Kid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| kkid |
Nov 25 2012, 02:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(oldschool @ Nov 25 2012, 12:01 PM) QUOTE(kkid @ Nov 25 2012, 11:52 AM) Hey guys, I think my 2.0 w/d-jet is needing a help. It eats a lot of oil and smells bad from the exhaust pipe. And the gas mileage is bad, too(17miles/gal). I might have to find a rebuilt or a good used motor when the original motor is out of the car. Now, what should I visually check when I buy a motor? Thanks in advance, kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) How old are u Kid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I am old enough to drive a car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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| stugray |
Nov 25 2012, 02:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
Other than finding a running replacement motor that you can listen to (and smell), about the only test you can do on an un-running motor is a cylinder leakdown test.
About the only way to really know what shape a used engine is in is to tear it down and look. Stu |
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| ConeDodger |
Nov 25 2012, 02:29 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,586 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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Burning or leaking?
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Nov 25 2012, 04:58 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(kkid @ Nov 25 2012, 11:52 AM) Hey guys, I think my 2.0 w/d-jet is needing a help. It eats a lot of oil and smells bad from the exhaust pipe. And the gas mileage is bad, too(17miles/gal). I might have to find a rebuilt or a good used motor when the original motor is out of the car. Now, what should I visually check when I buy a motor? Thanks in advance, kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) OK. How much oil is it using (quarts per tankful of fuel)? What color is the smoke (white or black)? There are few visual checks that help identify the condition of the engine. Leaks? Overall appearance? History? Compression and leakdown test results? (Both of 'em!) Seeing/hearing it run is a plus, driving the donor car before you buy the engine is even better. Black smoke, especially accompanied by a 50% drop in fuel mileage indicates to me a bad MPS or excessively high fuel pressure. Likely the former. The Cap'n |
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| kkid |
Nov 25 2012, 05:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(stugray @ Nov 25 2012, 12:15 PM) Other than finding a running replacement motor that you can listen to (and smell), about the only test you can do on an un-running motor is a cylinder leakdown test. About the only way to really know what shape a used engine is in is to tear it down and look. Stu Thanks, I found a rebuilt 2.0 motor for sale locally today and it is less than $3K. What should I expect from that price? |
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Nov 25 2012, 05:44 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
A 12,000 mile warranty.
Seriously, who built it? |
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| kkid |
Nov 25 2012, 05:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 25 2012, 12:29 PM) Burning or leaking? I think it's burning and I don't see any sign of leak on the garage floor. But it's weird that I see oil on the #4 spark plug thread. What does it mean? |
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| Woody |
Nov 25 2012, 05:55 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
What's hella oil? Should probably stick with conventional oil and maybe it wouldn't burn it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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| Hammy |
Nov 25 2012, 06:03 PM
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mr. Wonderful Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 20-October 04 From: Columbia, California Member No.: 2,978 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Woody @ Nov 25 2012, 03:55 PM) What's hella oil? Should probably stick with conventional oil and maybe it wouldn't burn it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) "Hella" is a California term for "hell of" basically meaning a lot of... no not Hella like the lenses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) A lot of my friends have moved out of state and get kicked frequently for letting that term slip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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| kkid |
Nov 25 2012, 06:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Nov 25 2012, 02:58 PM) QUOTE(kkid @ Nov 25 2012, 11:52 AM) Hey guys, I think my 2.0 w/d-jet is needing a help. It eats a lot of oil and smells bad from the exhaust pipe. And the gas mileage is bad, too(17miles/gal). I might have to find a rebuilt or a good used motor when the original motor is out of the car. Now, what should I visually check when I buy a motor? Thanks in advance, kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) OK. How much oil is it using (quarts per tankful of fuel)? What color is the smoke (white or black)? There are few visual checks that help identify the condition of the engine. Leaks? Overall appearance? History? Compression and leakdown test results? (Both of 'em!) Seeing/hearing it run is a plus, driving the donor car before you buy the engine is even better. Black smoke, especially accompanied by a 50% drop in fuel mileage indicates to me a bad MPS or excessively high fuel pressure. Likely the former. The Cap'n It uses about 1/3 quarts oil per tankful of gas and the exhaust gas has no color as it smells bad. It doesn't smell so bad when the motor is just started. I don't have leak test result but had tested compression and it showed decent result about an year ago. Just tested the MPS and has no leak so far(no change from 20psi in 5 min). The fuel pressure is 29-30PSI according to the cheapo inline gauge. The motor was rebuilt about 35K miles ago. Will post the motor run on youtube later. Thanks |
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| matthepcat |
Nov 25 2012, 07:36 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
Hella NorCal. Hella hells yea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| SirAndy |
Nov 25 2012, 08:20 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Hammy @ Nov 25 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE(Woody @ Nov 25 2012, 03:55 PM) What's hella oil? Should probably stick with conventional oil and maybe it wouldn't burn it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) "Hella" is a California term for "hell of" basically meaning a lot of... no not Hella like the lenses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) A lot of my friends have moved out of state and get kicked frequently for letting that term slip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) It's funny because when i saw the title of the post i thought to myself "He's probably from Oakland" ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| JStroud |
Nov 25 2012, 08:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,463 Joined: 15-January 11 From: Galt, California Member No.: 12,594 Region Association: Northern California |
Since he is in Oakland, I would suggest taking the car to McMark at original customs in Sonoma, he might be able to fix yours or help you find a reliable used motor or build you a new one.
Jeff |
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| Hammy |
Nov 25 2012, 08:51 PM
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mr. Wonderful Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 20-October 04 From: Columbia, California Member No.: 2,978 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 25 2012, 06:20 PM) QUOTE(Hammy @ Nov 25 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE(Woody @ Nov 25 2012, 03:55 PM) What's hella oil? Should probably stick with conventional oil and maybe it wouldn't burn it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) "Hella" is a California term for "hell of" basically meaning a lot of... no not Hella like the lenses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) A lot of my friends have moved out of state and get kicked frequently for letting that term slip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) It's funny because when i saw the title of the post i thought to myself "He's probably from Oakland" ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Do ya say it too Ahndy? I'm definitely guilty.. valley child. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Take it to McMark. |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Nov 25 2012, 09:01 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(Hammy @ Nov 25 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE(Woody @ Nov 25 2012, 03:55 PM) What's hella oil? Should probably stick with conventional oil and maybe it wouldn't burn it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) "Hella" is a California term for "hell of" basically meaning a lot of... no not Hella like the lenses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) A lot of my friends have moved out of state and get kicked frequently for letting that term slip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) "California term"? I've lived here nearly all my life and I've never heard it used except on internet forums. The Cap'n |
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| Hammy |
Nov 25 2012, 09:08 PM
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mr. Wonderful Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 20-October 04 From: Columbia, California Member No.: 2,978 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Nov 25 2012, 07:01 PM) QUOTE(Hammy @ Nov 25 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE(Woody @ Nov 25 2012, 03:55 PM) What's hella oil? Should probably stick with conventional oil and maybe it wouldn't burn it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) "Hella" is a California term for "hell of" basically meaning a lot of... no not Hella like the lenses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) A lot of my friends have moved out of state and get kicked frequently for letting that term slip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) "California term"? I've lived here nearly all my life and I've never heard it used except on internet forums. The Cap'n Cap'n - I respect the hell out of you but this is a kind of a "new age" term (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) My folks sure don't say it. Maybe more a Nor-Cal term (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| bandjoey |
Nov 25 2012, 11:54 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Lots of places oil will leak and burn off on the heat exchangers. Looks like a smoker going down the road. Might not be as bad as u think but u need expert advice.
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| mrholland2 |
Nov 26 2012, 12:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 750 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
Sorry, but none of yous guys are in the REAL NorCal. I'm hella further north than y'all are.
BTW, the kid that wanted to make "hella" officially mean 10 to the 27th power is from HERE (well, 25 miles from my house). So. . yous guys (or y'all) from down south there in Oakland or SF wanna see where Nor Cal REALLY is, crank up the 914 and visit me in Weed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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