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| Ductech |
 Nov 26 2012, 01:19 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 356 Joined: 16-July 10 From: AridZona Member No.: 11,949 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
Man kids up here use the hell out of the term hella... For what it's worth, course I'm kinda young.
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| kkid |
Nov 27 2012, 07:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
Hi guys!
So I jacked up my car and took some pix. I see some oil here and there on the bottom of the motor. The worst is #2 cylinder which has an oil caramelized exhaust stud that is I think dripping some oil onto the heater branch piece. Overall, I see oil leak from all cylinders on the mating seam with the case. The oil cooler looks dry but I see slight oil in the front of the case. #2 exhaust stud and nut w/hella caramelized oil  oily push rod tube  here is an oil. too.  other stud is clean but oil is visible on the copper exhaust gasket  other bank looks clean at a glance but...  #3 has a leak as #2  So what do you guys think? Thanks, kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Woody |
Nov 27 2012, 08:06 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
That's normal and its not going to be loosing that much oil from those leaks. Do a leakdown test.
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| kkid |
Nov 28 2012, 02:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Woody @ Nov 27 2012, 06:06 PM)  That's normal and its not going to be loosing that much oil from those leaks. Do a leakdown test. Thanks woody. That's what I thought. But today I got a new finding. One(for #4 cylinder) intake manifold hose is totally oil soaked and seeping. Other 3 are bone dry. What does this suggest? Thanks, kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| McMark |
Nov 28 2012, 05:18 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Could be blow-by (compression getting past worn rings, which carries oil with it). This would cause pressure in the case, which comes oil the oil fill tower and goes through a hose to the intake. You could pull off the hose from the oil fill tower and clamp it shut, then run a new hose from the oil fill tower to an empty gatorade bottle with some holes in it. This will catch the oil vapor and allow you to see how much is being blown out (assuming you secure it so it doesn't fall over while driving).
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Nov 28 2012, 05:47 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(Hammy @ Nov 25 2012, 07:08 PM) QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Nov 25 2012, 07:01 PM) QUOTE(Hammy @ Nov 25 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE(Woody @ Nov 25 2012, 03:55 PM) What's hella oil? Should probably stick with conventional oil and maybe it wouldn't burn it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) "Hella" is a California term for "hell of" basically meaning a lot of... no not Hella like the lenses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) A lot of my friends have moved out of state and get kicked frequently for letting that term slip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) "California term"? I've lived here nearly all my life and I've never heard it used except on internet forums. The Cap'n Cap'n - I respect the hell out of you but this is a kind of a "new age" term (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) My folks sure don't say it. Maybe more a Nor-Cal term (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Seems to be a term used by clueless folks who wear their baseball caps backwards. Not all that many of them around here. The goat ropers keep 'em away. The Cap'n |
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| Hammy |
Nov 28 2012, 08:33 PM
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mr. Wonderful Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 20-October 04 From: Columbia, California Member No.: 2,978 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Nov 28 2012, 03:47 PM) QUOTE(Hammy @ Nov 25 2012, 07:08 PM) QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Nov 25 2012, 07:01 PM) QUOTE(Hammy @ Nov 25 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE(Woody @ Nov 25 2012, 03:55 PM) What's hella oil? Should probably stick with conventional oil and maybe it wouldn't burn it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) "Hella" is a California term for "hell of" basically meaning a lot of... no not Hella like the lenses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) A lot of my friends have moved out of state and get kicked frequently for letting that term slip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) "California term"? I've lived here nearly all my life and I've never heard it used except on internet forums. The Cap'n Cap'n - I respect the hell out of you but this is a kind of a "new age" term (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) My folks sure don't say it. Maybe more a Nor-Cal term (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Seems to be a term used by clueless folks who wear their baseball caps backwards. Not all that many of them around here. The goat ropers keep 'em away. The Cap'n I never wear my baseball hat backwards. That's hella dumb. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Nov 28 2012, 10:19 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,724 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None 
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If you averaged 25 mpg (which you state you don't) then you'd average about 400 miles to 1/3 a quart of oil, which is well below the factory limit of 1 qt of oil consumption for 500 miles.
If you are only getting 17 mpg, I'm going to guess you have an over rich fuel issue that can cause premature engine failure. So check you fuel system. |
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| kkid |
Nov 29 2012, 01:28 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 28 2012, 03:18 PM) Could be blow-by (compression getting past worn rings, which carries oil with it). This would cause pressure in the case, which comes oil the oil fill tower and goes through a hose to the intake. You could pull off the hose from the oil fill tower and clamp it shut, then run a new hose from the oil fill tower to an empty gatorade bottle with some holes in it. This will catch the oil vapor and allow you to see how much is being blown out (assuming you secure it so it doesn't fall over while driving). Thanks Mark! This is interesting. I'll give it a shot when the weather permits. Are the holes in the bottle to condense the vapor? |
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| kkid |
Nov 29 2012, 01:53 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(9146986 @ Nov 28 2012, 08:19 PM) If you averaged 25 mpg (which you state you don't) then you'd average about 400 miles to 1/3 a quart of oil, which is well below the factory limit of 1 qt of oil consumption for 500 miles. If you are only getting 17 mpg, I'm going to guess you have an over rich fuel issue that can cause premature engine failure. So check you fuel system. Yeah, but this spark plug didn't tell me it's a rich running. What do you think?  On the other hand, I don't really trust my fuel pressure gauge because I toyed the back screw once before. This is a good chance to get a new fuel pressure gauge anyway. Thanks, kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Nov 29 2012, 07:28 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,724 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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It's hard to tell from the pic, and unless you do a proper "plug cut" it doesn't mean much anyway. You'd get better results at determining your air/fuel mixture with a tail pipe sniffer, and better yet a good wide band a/f meter.
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| McMark |
Nov 29 2012, 11:44 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Are the holes in the bottle to condense the vapor? The holes (at the top of the bottle) are to let the actual air pressure out. The idea is that the oil will fall out of the air and collect in the bottom of the bottle, while still allowing air flow in and out. |
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| SirAndy |
Nov 29 2012, 02:54 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 29 2012, 09:44 AM) QUOTE Are the holes in the bottle to condense the vapor? The holes (at the top of the bottle) are to let the actual air pressure out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Without a way for the pressure to equalize, you will blow the case seals of your engine. Big mess. Here's a pic of my "puke bottle". The top of the bottle has several holes that are facing the air filter so any vapors get sucked back into the intake and burned. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1255294222.jpg) |
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| dlestep |
Nov 29 2012, 10:01 PM
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I am smilin'... Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 15-January 08 From: Sunrise Florida Member No.: 8,573 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Nov 28 2012, 06:47 PM) QUOTE(Hammy @ Nov 25 2012, 07:08 PM) QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Nov 25 2012, 07:01 PM) QUOTE(Hammy @ Nov 25 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE(Woody @ Nov 25 2012, 03:55 PM) What's hella oil? Should probably stick with conventional oil and maybe it wouldn't burn it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) "Hella" is a California term for "hell of" basically meaning a lot of... no not Hella like the lenses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) A lot of my friends have moved out of state and get kicked frequently for letting that term slip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) "California term"? I've lived here nearly all my life and I've never heard it used except on internet forums. The Cap'n Cap'n - I respect the hell out of you but this is a kind of a "new age" term (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) My folks sure don't say it. Maybe more a Nor-Cal term (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Seems to be a term used by clueless folks who wear their baseball caps backwards. Not all that many of them around here. The goat ropers keep 'em away. The Cap'n Cap, I believe that it falls in the same bucket with "What I did?" and "Where it is?" You and I may break out with " bitchin' " once and awhile, but that is about it. |
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| krazykonrad |
Nov 29 2012, 10:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,127 Joined: 21-February 06 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 5,610 |
QUOTE crank up the 914 and visit me in Weed. Weed, CA. That is awesome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) Konrad |
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| mrholland2 |
Nov 30 2012, 09:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 750 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
Yah yah. . I called somewhere to order something once and they hung up on me when I said the town's name. Or they ask how close it is to "Bong" etc etc etc.
And here is THE sign that kept getting stolen and has been vastly changed: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/oddculture.com-419-1354295001.1.jpg) QUOTE(krazykonrad @ Nov 29 2012, 08:42 PM) QUOTE crank up the 914 and visit me in Weed. Weed, CA. That is awesome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) Konrad |
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| kkid |
Dec 5 2012, 04:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 29 2012, 12:54 PM) QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 29 2012, 09:44 AM) QUOTE Are the holes in the bottle to condense the vapor? The holes (at the top of the bottle) are to let the actual air pressure out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Without a way for the pressure to equalize, you will blow the case seals of your engine. Big mess. Here's a pic of my "puke bottle". The top of the bottle has several holes that are facing the air filter so any vapors get sucked back into the intake and burned. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1255294222.jpg) Thanks Andy for posting the pics. So I hooked up the puke receiver(Trader Joe's Half Gallon Milk Bottle) and drove about 20 miles. But all I see in the bottle is a few drops of water. I will drive until the gas tank becomes near empty to see how much oil lost on the oil level gauge. It's also funny that only #4 intake runner hose is oil wet. to be continued.... kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| type47 |
Dec 6 2012, 08:05 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(kkid @ Dec 5 2012, 02:49 PM) ... to see how much oil lost on the oil level gauge. to be continued.... kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) do you mean dipstick? |
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| kkid |
Dec 6 2012, 11:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(type47 @ Dec 6 2012, 06:05 AM) QUOTE(kkid @ Dec 5 2012, 02:49 PM) ... to see how much oil lost on the oil level gauge. to be continued.... kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) do you mean dipstick? yeah, the stick I mean... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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