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> Frame stiffener install?, Jack receiver plate needed?
jet1
post Nov 6 2004, 11:06 AM
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Hi all,

I am installing the frame stiffners from Restoration Design on my '73. do i need to install the jack receiver plate first or does the part on the stiffner replace it? any advice or tips for the install are welcome.
BTW does anyone know if Restoration design has the lower wheelhouse P331 in stock? or will I have to wait for a production run?

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post Nov 6 2004, 01:29 PM
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If your jack posts are bad, you will need to replace them before installing the overlays.
If the area of the long behind the quarter panel is good, I would cut the end off the
stiffener and not fool with it.
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post Nov 6 2004, 01:32 PM
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Huh?

They get welded on top of the overlay... how could you weld them on first and then put the overlay on? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 6 2004, 01:41 PM
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The RD overlays have the a section that goes over the existing jack post area. (see picture) my question is can this part be used without a new jack post plate under it? The brad m. kit is the one that new jack posts go on top of. the restoration design ones are different.
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post Nov 6 2004, 04:19 PM
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Find out if they are attached already or if they come with the kit. It looks like they are however, I got RD longs (not the overlay kit) and the jackposts were seperated and got welded on after...

Now, that being the case, my bad, sorry Daniel. It looks as though (from the pic) it may lay over top of everything. He be right, fix it first if there's a problem then overlay and weld.
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post Nov 6 2004, 06:04 PM
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Thanks
I will fix the post first then go over everything with the overlay. If anyone has more advice on installing the overlays please post it.
I will post pictures of the install when I finish.

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post Nov 6 2004, 06:31 PM
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This is not a replacement outer long. The part in the picture is an overlay made to be welded over a complete stock outer long. Some people use 'em to cover up the nasty and some use them to "reinforce" although the outer long is actually just a cap over
the true "frame" of the car-----The Longitudinal.

If I am not mistaken, you won't be able to weld the rear section under the quarter
panel. You may be better off trimming the overlay.
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post Nov 6 2004, 08:06 PM
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I am doing massive amounts of rust repair so I have already cut part of the rear quarter panel away for access. I will be replacing the outer long first, then installing the overlay.
I am going to por the inside of the long. does anyone have any ideas on rust protection for the area that is under the overlay? should I put the overlay over bare metal then por the out side? or should I use weldable primer? or...?
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post Nov 6 2004, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(jet1 @ Nov 6 2004, 07:06 PM)
should I use weldable primer? or...?

yes. and/or metal ready or similar product. don't leave any bare metal behind anything ...

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post Nov 7 2004, 11:35 AM
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I would POR "most" of it (surface area) and then have a can of Zinc primer for the areas that you'll be welding (seams or edges).
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post Nov 7 2004, 01:54 PM
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thanks guys,
prime and por combo sounds best. right now I am still trying to get the longs back together after cutting out the rust. what a mess. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Nov 7 2004, 01:59 PM
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Daniel,

You "speak" like you have some good info on how this is done. Experience ?? LOL

Take some pics Jet1 and show us what you are working on.



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post Nov 7 2004, 02:07 PM
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pics will be posted soon. you guys will think I am crazy for trying to save this thing, but I have time off from school right now so I thought it's worth a try!
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post Nov 7 2004, 02:10 PM
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Have mig welder...will travel. I personally would have told you to patch the outside cover and run the inner frame rail stiff kits Engman sells. Daniel nailed it when he said "the outside is just a frame rail cover". You'll be fine. RD sells some pretty nice stuff.



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post Nov 7 2004, 02:49 PM
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Brad, I wish it were that easy. the car is in bad shape but I have most of the sheet metal and the time. here are some pics.


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post Nov 7 2004, 02:50 PM
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the bad spot!!
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post Nov 7 2004, 02:51 PM
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forgot the pic


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post Nov 7 2004, 02:52 PM
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Just from the outside appearance.. it looks pretty good. Glad to see you making an effort to save it. I know NY isnt friendly to early Porsches.


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