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Another 5 Lug Conversion Question, Which front end? |
mharrison |
Nov 7 2004, 08:23 PM
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Why do I bother???? Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 8-September 03 From: Madison, MS Member No.: 1,123 |
What year 911 front ends will bolt up to a teener? What are the various pros and cons, and which pieces will I need? I've looked through the archives, but the information is real spotty.
Thanks, Matt |
seanery |
Nov 7 2004, 08:26 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,846 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
if you want bigger brakes as well as 5 lug, SC and Carrera are good choices.
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mharrison |
Nov 7 2004, 08:32 PM
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Any particular year models that are desirable/undesirable ?
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Brad Roberts |
Nov 7 2004, 08:36 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Stay away from ANY of the Bilstein strut combo's. They are all wearing out at the top. They are green in color.
Use: 78-83 911 SC or a little bigger stuff 84-89 Carrera Plan on rebuilding everything you buy. I have people telling me about these "great" deals they find on used struts only to learn that EVERYTHING is worn out (rotors/bearings/ball joints..) Dont buy a complete front end. You only need the actual struts/shocks/hubs/rotors/calipers. B |
mharrison |
Nov 7 2004, 08:40 PM
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Why do I bother???? Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 8-September 03 From: Madison, MS Member No.: 1,123 |
Well I just sent an e-mail to a Porsche Parts junkyard in TN. We'll see what they have and at what price!
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Brad Roberts |
Nov 7 2004, 08:41 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Also... I run across 2-3 911 street cars a week with bent struts. These are not cars that have been wrecked... just peoples daily drivers. I'm VERY careful on what I buy/look for now.
It almost isnt worth the pain. Buy new struts and used hubs/calipers. B |
mharrison |
Nov 7 2004, 08:43 PM
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Why do I bother???? Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 8-September 03 From: Madison, MS Member No.: 1,123 |
I just found a guy with a 73 Targa that has the front end parts available here in Mississippi. What would your take on using this be?
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Aaron Cox |
Nov 7 2004, 08:45 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i have a 73 front end in mine. works good. M calipers are plenty sufficient.
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mharrison |
Nov 7 2004, 08:46 PM
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Why do I bother???? Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 8-September 03 From: Madison, MS Member No.: 1,123 |
What about this?
I have some from a early 911 and 912 like 71 down, price is $200 for the complete setup! Mine is only a '72, but wouldn't going backwards be a bad idea? |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 7 2004, 08:49 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
73 uses the good later style tapered pin ball joints (cheaper!!!)
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mharrison |
Nov 7 2004, 08:53 PM
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Why do I bother???? Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 8-September 03 From: Madison, MS Member No.: 1,123 |
Now, do these all bolt up to the existing 914 lower control arm?
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Aaron Cox |
Nov 7 2004, 08:57 PM
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yes. they all do.
Brad can eleborate on the ball joint compatability |
Brad Roberts |
Nov 7 2004, 08:58 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
What year is your car ?? and what engine do you have ??
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mharrison |
Nov 7 2004, 09:01 PM
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Why do I bother???? Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 8-September 03 From: Madison, MS Member No.: 1,123 |
I have a '72 with a four built to about 2.1 liters with a mild webcam and dual Dellortos. Bigger brakes are something I'd like, but the 5-lug is what I'm after.
The brakes are desirable because I have "plans" to build a monster. It will probably be years though.... |
Brad Roberts |
Nov 7 2004, 09:03 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Can you look at the car right now ?? You need to see which balljoints you have.
Early cars used a bolt and nut through the ball joint. Late cars used a taper pin with a 13mm nut on one end. 72 is a funky year depending on your production number. B |
mharrison |
Nov 7 2004, 09:11 PM
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Why do I bother???? Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 8-September 03 From: Madison, MS Member No.: 1,123 |
Just looked...I've got the taper pin.
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Brad Roberts |
Nov 7 2004, 09:14 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Stick with the 73 and up stuff. I personally wouldnt put anything less than a 78 setup on it so you get the 3.5 inch bolt spacing in case you want bigger calipers later. The early "S" stuff with the flexy aluminum calipers is 3.5 inch also.
Key is: all the caliper adapters available are designed for 3.5 inch spacing. All the early struts are 3 inch. B |
mharrison |
Nov 7 2004, 09:18 PM
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Why do I bother???? Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 8-September 03 From: Madison, MS Member No.: 1,123 |
Sounds like good advice. So, these would bolt up to my existing control arms and ball joints or would the ball joints have to be changed?
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Brad Roberts |
Nov 7 2004, 09:20 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
They would bolt right up. You will have to figure something out with the brake lines. Plan on installing turbo tie rods if you havent already (get the car aligned one time..not twice)
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datapace |
Nov 7 2004, 09:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 19-January 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 1,579 Region Association: South East States |
Not to hijack, but what's the easiest way to tell if a strut housing is bent?
-bryan |
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