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> Another 5 Lug Conversion Question, Which front end?
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post Nov 7 2004, 08:23 PM
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What year 911 front ends will bolt up to a teener? What are the various pros and cons, and which pieces will I need? I've looked through the archives, but the information is real spotty.

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post Nov 7 2004, 08:26 PM
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if you want bigger brakes as well as 5 lug, SC and Carrera are good choices.
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post Nov 7 2004, 08:32 PM
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Any particular year models that are desirable/undesirable ?
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post Nov 7 2004, 08:36 PM
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Stay away from ANY of the Bilstein strut combo's. They are all wearing out at the top. They are green in color.

Use: 78-83 911 SC or a little bigger stuff 84-89 Carrera

Plan on rebuilding everything you buy. I have people telling me about these "great" deals they find on used struts only to learn that EVERYTHING is worn out (rotors/bearings/ball joints..)

Dont buy a complete front end. You only need the actual struts/shocks/hubs/rotors/calipers.


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post Nov 7 2004, 08:40 PM
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Well I just sent an e-mail to a Porsche Parts junkyard in TN. We'll see what they have and at what price!
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post Nov 7 2004, 08:41 PM
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Also... I run across 2-3 911 street cars a week with bent struts. These are not cars that have been wrecked... just peoples daily drivers. I'm VERY careful on what I buy/look for now.

It almost isnt worth the pain. Buy new struts and used hubs/calipers.


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post Nov 7 2004, 08:43 PM
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I just found a guy with a 73 Targa that has the front end parts available here in Mississippi. What would your take on using this be?
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post Nov 7 2004, 08:45 PM
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i have a 73 front end in mine. works good. M calipers are plenty sufficient.
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post Nov 7 2004, 08:46 PM
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What about this?
I have some from a early 911 and 912 like 71 down, price is $200 for the complete setup!

Mine is only a '72, but wouldn't going backwards be a bad idea?
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post Nov 7 2004, 08:49 PM
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73 uses the good later style tapered pin ball joints (cheaper!!!)
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post Nov 7 2004, 08:53 PM
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Now, do these all bolt up to the existing 914 lower control arm?
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post Nov 7 2004, 08:57 PM
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yes. they all do.

Brad can eleborate on the ball joint compatability
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post Nov 7 2004, 08:58 PM
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What year is your car ?? and what engine do you have ??


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post Nov 7 2004, 09:01 PM
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I have a '72 with a four built to about 2.1 liters with a mild webcam and dual Dellortos. Bigger brakes are something I'd like, but the 5-lug is what I'm after.

The brakes are desirable because I have "plans" to build a monster. It will probably be years though....
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post Nov 7 2004, 09:03 PM
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Can you look at the car right now ?? You need to see which balljoints you have.

Early cars used a bolt and nut through the ball joint.

Late cars used a taper pin with a 13mm nut on one end.

72 is a funky year depending on your production number.


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post Nov 7 2004, 09:11 PM
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Just looked...I've got the taper pin.
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post Nov 7 2004, 09:14 PM
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Stick with the 73 and up stuff. I personally wouldnt put anything less than a 78 setup on it so you get the 3.5 inch bolt spacing in case you want bigger calipers later. The early "S" stuff with the flexy aluminum calipers is 3.5 inch also.

Key is: all the caliper adapters available are designed for 3.5 inch spacing. All the early struts are 3 inch.


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post Nov 7 2004, 09:18 PM
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Sounds like good advice. So, these would bolt up to my existing control arms and ball joints or would the ball joints have to be changed?
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post Nov 7 2004, 09:20 PM
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They would bolt right up. You will have to figure something out with the brake lines. Plan on installing turbo tie rods if you havent already (get the car aligned one time..not twice)


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post Nov 7 2004, 09:24 PM
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Not to hijack, but what's the easiest way to tell if a strut housing is bent?

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