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> 914 purity poll, where do you stand?
which of the following statements do you identify with?
which of the following statements do you identify with?
914s should have its original engine, its a sacred relationship between chassis and engine [ 14 ] ** [7.41%]
914s can have a different engine as long as its a Porsche motor [ 84 ] ** [44.44%]
914s are just a light chasis to cram any frickin engine I see fit, chevy or scooby, and if you don't like it - piss off [ 91 ] ** [48.15%]
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Root_Werks
post Nov 9 2004, 09:46 AM
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I just voted and wow, look how almost dead even split it is between shove Porsche engines in to shove whatever in. I think that is pretty cool. 914's are very versitile.

The V8 guys have had me thinking a lot lately.

Wonder if I could sell me six parts as a complete conversion installed for someone? Hmmm? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:03 AM
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My attitude is "Sure, why not?" (#3), tho I tend towards form follows function and ask the question "does it *work*?"

If you're gonna do some oddball conversion, make it work at least as well as the original 30 year old car. A car that's broke down all the time.....or never gets on the road/track shows that you have a lot to learn ...or you're a troll. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:03 AM
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I have a weird standard... maybe even a double standard. For myself, I really like sleepers, that is cars that look pretty much stock, but pack a punch. That whole concept of looking stock-ish has ruled a lot of my own decisions on my 914. Also, it would seem that PCA is enforcing the "must be Porsche engined" rule more and more so that will affect some people's decisions.

Truth be known though my geek side really likes all the conversion perversions. 928 motor, cool. Subaru flat 4 or 6, very cool. Rotary, SBC, VR6, all cool. The fact that people enjoy these cars enough to engineer ways to make all of these conversions work simply shows what great little cars our 914s are and that it has a lot of untapped possibility.
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:04 AM
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I prefer a Porsche engine.

But hey put in anything you want just don't say SH$T or you will get edited. <_<
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:06 AM
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Peronally, if it has a throttle, I wanna drive it or ride it, no matter what it is. 2, 3, 4 wheels no matter. As long as I'm in it, working on it, breaking it, wasting money on it, it's cool.
I chose a 2.0 over a brand new V6 (I had a new crate motor) to put in my car, because it was easier, but also because it's a wierd car, and should at least have a wierd motor in it - it's so much fun to crunch through gears at 4 grand and hear the motor, carbs, fan, and every other rattle and noise it makes. A V8 would be awesome I'm sure, and if I had another 914 I'd certainly consider hacking in a SBC! I'd also LOVE to drive a nice big flat six, one of those that everyone here seems to long for......... I could never afford one, sadly.
I can appreciate a stone stocker as well, and would never hack a pristine one apart, but these are cars, and meant to be driven - so if you have a concourse car, put it in a crystal ball, but go buy another so you can beat the snot out if it and DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!
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DRIVE! DRIVE! DRIVE!!!!
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:08 AM
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I am a "purist" - my car is built from the purist rusty junk I could find - It's all Porsche - Fine pursit German Rusty Junk I might add - pure shit - donkeydung-apecrap (the preceeding was a test of the "Bad Language" auto editor)!!!!!
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:32 AM
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it's your car, do what you want ...

(been saying that since 1975...)
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:46 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'!
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Is this political in some way?????? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Just looking for the subliminal message here.

I am bad I will have one of each soon.
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:57 AM
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My interest in cars has always been racing of one sort or another. I like to think of cars the way my uncle who was a Navy carrier pilot described helicoptors. "A large collection of parts flying (or in this case driving) in a VERY close formation." People who look down on cars just because of brand, modifications, or intended use whether it be concours, drag racing, etc. instead of looking at the workmanship and pride of ownership from the owner completely miss the point of the car hobby.

Case in point. I have a good friend that has a '54 MGTD MkII that his father bought brand new. It has never been restored. It has only been mechanically maintained as necessary. You should hear the PCA guys scoff when I talk about that car. It's also amusing to hear what they have to say when I drive my '66 bug to monthly meetings. I acutally over heard a guy say "can you believe some one had the gall to come here in an old VW?".

It is these kind of penny loafer wearing, nose looking down, middle class twits that give the PCA a bad rap. I encourage real car people all over to be active in their club.

rant over.

Kelly
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(krk @ Nov 9 2004, 08:34 AM)
An odd vote in a way. One of the things that I get a real kick out of in the 914 community is the engineering and fab skills. I love looking at the work that has gone -- particularly the cleverness/creativity/design work. You don't see this anywhere near as much in the other p-car communities.

For my own car though, I'd be more-or-less happy with a decent sixer. I say "more or less" because an original /6 is not a particularly strong performer -- needs more ponies -- but I'm not sure I want to stray from factory in that case. Ah well -- it's not a bad problem to have (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

kim.

kim, I have to disagree, some of the 356 guys have us beat hands down when it comes to cleverness/creativity/design work on our P-cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

I like bone stock 914s, there is something "neat" about having a car that old in original condition, however, right now for me, that is not the type of car that I want to own right now...so I picked the heavily modified/molested (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Nov 9 2004, 08:58 AM)


kim, I have to disagree, some of the 356 guys have us beat hands down when it comes to cleverness/creativity/design work on our P-cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

I've seen some mighty trick 356s.....mostly Gary Emory's stuff.
"Bring money and let someone else do the thinking/work" seems to be the 356 rule. They've also had more time to sort things out and a prettier car to work with. Emory is VERY good.

Send him a fist fulla cash and a 914 and who knows what you'd get.....but I'd rather do it myself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:40 AM
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Too bad you can only vote once. My vote went to " cram it" but I think there is a place for every kind and I'l like to have one of each.
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:41 AM
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If you start editing my shit then I will go somewhere else.
I came to this site because it was renegade and just an extension of my garage Beer Boobs Butts ocassionally porn.

Only thing left is to tell me I can't upgrade my motor to what ever I want, then down the crapper we go.
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:44 AM
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Do what ever you like to the car, but keep it Porsche driven. I had a 356 Speedster kit car with VW pan/engine, was OK. But, an old MG kit car with VW drive train in the back, just looses its appeal.
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Nov 9 2004, 09:58 AM)
QUOTE(krk @ Nov 9 2004, 08:34 AM)
An odd vote in a way. One of the things that I get a real kick out of in the 914 community is the engineering and fab skills. I love looking at the work that has gone -- particularly the cleverness/creativity/design work. You don't see this anywhere near as much in the other p-car communities.

For my own car though, I'd be more-or-less happy with a decent sixer.  I say "more or less" because an original /6 is not a particularly strong performer -- needs more ponies -- but I'm not sure I want to stray from factory in that case. Ah well -- it's not a bad problem to have (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

kim.

kim, I have to disagree, some of the 356 guys have us beat hands down when it comes to cleverness/creativity/design work on our P-cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

I like bone stock 914s, there is something "neat" about having a car that old in original condition, however, right now for me, that is not the type of car that I want to own right now...so I picked the heavily modified/molested (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Actually I'm happy to stand corrected. I debated mentioning the outlaw group -- they have done some pretty amazing things, some of which have showed up in some pretty cool magazines, and some which I really *really* like. But I don't have a sense for how big that crowd is or how active, and they seem less race oriented than the 914 crowd. (those are all pretty clueless comments tho (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif))

Mike/JP, do you think there are many with non-pcar drive trains?

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post Nov 9 2004, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(mikez @ Nov 9 2004, 07:11 AM)
Concour weenies make me ill.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)

I see the "cram in it vote" is ahead...let's see if Ohio can screw it up....

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) MIKE took the words right out of my mouth!!!!!
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:55 AM
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I own a skin deep bastard child, so I say whatever floats your boat. Would I like to own a purist looking car,...? Sure
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:55 AM
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OH YEAH I FORGOT TO MENTION I VOTED FOR 3! GREETINGS TO ALL YOU WHITE GLOVE CONCOURSE WHEENIE PYSHCO NUMBERS MATCH POLISED BOTTOM JUDGES! :finger2: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:55 AM
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I do Porsche only. You guys probably know my love for the six by now, but I am considering a 951 engine for a future project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

I've never been a fan of the non-Porsche V8s because they're power plants out of cars that I generally hate, but I can appreciate quality craftsmanship.
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:57 AM
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I voted as it pertains to my own cars... I want to keep porsche engines in them...
But I do admire and really dig the engineering and inginuity(yeah I cant speLL!) that these projects bring.
Maybe I voted wrong oh well...
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