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> All this talk about jack stands..., what's the best way to keep it up?
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post Nov 9 2004, 03:04 PM
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and get your minds out of the gutter. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I like JPs boxes but I don't have enough room nor is my floor overly level. I want to get the car up as high as possible and be able to work on various areas.

Ideas?
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post Nov 9 2004, 03:26 PM
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ahhh, the joys of youth...


but back to your question, heavyduty jackstands with thick stacks of 2" wood ought to get it pretty high.
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post Nov 9 2004, 03:31 PM
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Hmmm, care to elaberate on that a bit?
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post Nov 9 2004, 03:34 PM
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I hate jackstands. I'm so freakin' paranoid under a car held up with them I can't take a nap, should the notion arise....thus, the boxes. Casters are an option. Wood shims/wedges for out of level.

One of them lift thingys would be gud iff'n I wasn't a cheep SOB.
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post Nov 9 2004, 03:38 PM
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Don't even talk about being a CSOB. I'm starting a new chapter CSOBONE
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post Nov 9 2004, 03:42 PM
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clarify the youth part? let's just say i hope to have another decade or two before i need cialis!


honestly, i hate jackstands too, although i feel a little better under the heavyduty ones than the 2-ton cheapies from walmart. if they made jack stands with a reciever to fit the donut, i'd feel MUCH more comfortable.


currently, the business end of my car is on ramps, which themselves are on 2"x10"s. nice and high for engine removal, and super stable.
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post Nov 9 2004, 03:42 PM
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post Nov 9 2004, 03:49 PM
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paul has a great method for supporting his car on two jackstands. hopefully he'll chime in (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Nov 9 2004, 04:27 PM
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Dude,

Get Truck Jack Stands.

I can hold my car at about 24" and they are very strong.

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post Nov 9 2004, 08:57 PM
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What about these pictures I've seen of cars with 2x4s running under them at some points? Can these be placed anywhere. I see most are not on the donuts. If I go with truck stands, where can these be safely placed to allow the most underside work without moving them? I use to use the quick 6 mount and t-bar front attachment points, but I want access to the t-bars and no longer have the quick 6 bars. I also don't have the drivers side rear donut.
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:18 PM
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you could run a 2x4 under each long, place the jack stands under it where the donuts are/should be. for the donuts, i'd dimple out the 2x4 to slightly to fit around the donut, then place the jack stand under that. more secure.

this assumes that you're a little nervous around jack stands, and don't like the placement of jackstands directly on the donut. (i fall into this camp).

whatever you do, give it a good push before you crawl under it. better for it to fall/slide at that point. and, as someone once told me, make sure your wife knows how to work the jack.

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post Nov 9 2004, 11:49 PM
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Anybody ever use any of these Stacker Jacks?
I've been curious about these especially when sets of 4 can
be had for under $30.
Sure looks attractive when you price out the AC jack stands.
The design is basically a gigantic bolt with a nut at the top of the base.
They are intended to be used to level trailers & RVs but they can
support 3 tons and have a auto leveling flat to very slightly concave
cup on top which would seem to be great for use on the donuts.

Plus they have infinite height adjustment between 11 and 17 inches.

Any thoughts on using these?
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post Nov 10 2004, 04:50 AM
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QUOTE(bperry @ Nov 9 2004, 09:49 PM)
Anybody ever use any of these Stacker Jacks?
I've been curious about these especially when sets of 4 can
be had for under $30.
Sure looks attractive when you price out the AC jack stands.
The design is basically a gigantic bolt with a nut at the top of the base.
They are intended to be used to level trailers & RVs but they can
support 3 tons and have a auto leveling flat to very slightly concave
cup on top which would seem to be great for use on the donuts.

Plus they have infinite height adjustment between 11 and 17 inches.

Any thoughts on using these?
--- bill

They look A LOT more stable than what I'm using (Walmart cheapos), and if that cupped washer on top of the jacks fits the doughnuts on the car you might have something here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Nov 10 2004, 07:01 AM
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I got a set of these 6-ton jacks. I can get the back of the car about 30" with them.

I still put a 2nd set of stands under the donuts and if possible have my big jack supporting under the iron crossbar.

I can sit underneath the car pretty much straight up, works for me.

I also put the rear tires under the tub just so it can't fall all the way down. Still feel jittery the first few times I get under there.


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post Nov 10 2004, 07:05 AM
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When we were building the car, we had her up in big stands that were on roller boards. You could push the car around with one hand. Honestly, I don't know how Larry got it up that high. I probably wouldn't want to watch.


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post Nov 10 2004, 08:11 AM
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If it were me I would NOT use those RV jack stands.
You'll probably see on the box a warning not to use them to support a car.

There is a product liability issue here and I would hate for your family to lose the law suit because you didn't read the warning on the box.

Use a jack stand made to support a car. Don't take the cheap way out when you're under the car.

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post Nov 10 2004, 08:29 AM
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To all,

Years ago, one of my friends and I was attempting to install the motor in my 6 .. we were having a diffcult time lineing up the front bolt.

By some divine intervention, I happen to look at one of the cheap three legged jack stands. It was tilted on the side- about
to fall / move..
I got out from under the under the car in no time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
We both looked at each other- like hell we could have been CRUSHED if the car had fallen on us.

Now , with a few years behind me.. I take precautions like
some of those that have been mention here.

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post Nov 10 2004, 12:22 PM
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pberry,
I'd be interested to find out if the stacker jack has that warning?

I feel if the are rated for 3 tons and fit "well" inside the "donuts" it would be far safer than using ill fitting jack stand on the donut!

If I take all my normal precautions and the car falls and kills me it's my fault!

Just because they put the warning on the product doesn't mean it could not be used safely! More likely a it's a requirement from their legal department. Can you imagine using that type of jack stand being used on a car without a donut? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Later
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post Nov 10 2004, 12:29 PM
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Time for a pic....just in case some of youz guys missed it.


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post Nov 10 2004, 12:33 PM
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Ok give JP.... how the F*&K did you get the car up that high (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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