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> flapper box heater attachment - RESOLVED!, with help from this board - many thanks!!!!
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post Jan 6 2013, 09:48 AM
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post Jan 6 2013, 09:57 AM
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You can get barrel nuts at the "Help" section at your FLAPS. They are the section with various prepackaged parts for all kinds of things. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Are your heater wires untangled inside the center tunnel?
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post Jan 6 2013, 11:40 AM
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THANKS everyone - I'm headed down the hill to check out the local Napa Auto parts store - located in Napa, CA. Try to google THAT with any hope of success....waaaaayyyyy to many "Napa's" in that search string! LOL

It could be that with a longish barrel nut, the cables might just work. I panicked and said they were 2" off, actually, they are just almost able to touch the end of the cable to the end of the bracket, and it could be that the longer barrel nut gizmo might make it work. My own tool kit was woefully inadequate when I was trying to McIver something together....maybe I'll have better luck at the car parts store? Home Depot, orchard supply hardware, Ace, etc.

I'll keep you posted....

thanks again for the pix and research....

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post Jan 6 2013, 12:50 PM
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In my case the passeger side wire was too long because the connecting pipe to the flapper valve was bending/pulling towards the middle of the car. Maybe yours are bent/mounted further away from the center of the car making the wire just a tad short?
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:13 PM
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I can't tell from your picture, are your arms two pieces? They are two piece with an elbow in the middle. If you only have one part of the arm, your cables are going to be to short. And you won't have the loop that the barrel nut slips into that is on the end of the outer arm. Just a thought...
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:22 PM
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:23 PM
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Good and krusty, but it's all there.
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post Jan 6 2013, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(Gint @ Jan 6 2013, 02:23 PM) *

Good and krusty, but it's all there.



Well thats what good old New England Driving will do for your parts! These came off of a Maine car. Almost everything had to be cut off for restoration.
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post Jan 6 2013, 07:01 PM
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YIKES - I thought mine looked bad....sheesh.

OK< update: I have heat! Napa parts came up with a barrel nut that was of course too large for the porsche part it is supposed to fit into. Given that the weekend is nigh over, and heat remains a priority - I was able to modify the barrel nut to fit the end of the wire, and then gave a mighty tug to ensure it would not slip off - - - - wait for it - - - - and gained about an inch or so in length when something gave way in the tunnel. good grief.

However, it remained to find a way to secure / attach the barrel nut to the flapper arm - and with some good old coat hanger ingenuity - we now have heat! I'll do it right when I find the right barrel nuts - but for now we are back on the road!

Thanks guys for all your help - I think this myth is busted!

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Make sure you didn't just pull one cable against another in the tunnel. Check clutch and accelerator function.
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QUOTE(Spoke @ Jan 6 2013, 08:46 AM) *

The cable ends on my car were cut when I bought it.

I got some wire of similar gauge and tiny U clamp from the hardware store to extend the cables.

The cable extensions don't have the special end but those aren't necessary to terminate the cable at the flapper valve.


Sorry to be a zombie but how did you connect the bare wire to the flapper box arm? I have wire but both ends broke off.
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post Nov 26 2015, 08:52 PM
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The barrel nut should be able to crank down enough to even hold onto a bare wire. You might be able to crimp or solder on a thicker end if you feel it's necessary.

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post Nov 26 2015, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Nov 26 2015, 09:52 PM) *

The barrel nut should be able to crank down enough to even hold onto a bare wire. You might be able to crimp or solder on a thicker end if you feel it's necessary.

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You can buy crimp sleeves used on fishing line, check your hobby shop as well.
I purchased a beetle heater cable set cheap but have not pot things together yet to see if that will work. An official 914 heater cable is $$
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post Nov 27 2015, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(barefoot @ Nov 26 2015, 10:10 PM) *

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Nov 26 2015, 09:52 PM) *

The barrel nut should be able to crank down enough to even hold onto a bare wire. You might be able to crimp or solder on a thicker end if you feel it's necessary.

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You can buy crimp sleeves used on fishing line, check your hobby shop as well.
I purchased a beetle heater cable set cheap but have not pot things together yet to see if that will work. An official 914 heater cable is $$
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Problem is I only have one barrel nut and it's toast. The crimp sleeves is a great idea - thanks gents
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post Nov 27 2015, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(arsprod @ Nov 26 2015, 02:55 PM) *

QUOTE(Spoke @ Jan 6 2013, 08:46 AM) *

The cable ends on my car were cut when I bought it.

I got some wire of similar gauge and tiny U clamp from the hardware store to extend the cables.

The cable extensions don't have the special end but those aren't necessary to terminate the cable at the flapper valve.


Sorry to be a zombie but how did you connect the bare wire to the flapper box arm? I have wire but both ends broke off.


Use a long cotter pin to replace missing wire ends.
The cotter pin goes through the barrel nut.
The broken wire end is looped through the hole in the cotter pin.
Easy fix.
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post Nov 27 2015, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Nov 27 2015, 08:56 AM) *

QUOTE(arsprod @ Nov 26 2015, 02:55 PM) *

QUOTE(Spoke @ Jan 6 2013, 08:46 AM) *

The cable ends on my car were cut when I bought it.

I got some wire of similar gauge and tiny U clamp from the hardware store to extend the cables.

The cable extensions don't have the special end but those aren't necessary to terminate the cable at the flapper valve.


Sorry to be a zombie but how did you connect the bare wire to the flapper box arm? I have wire but both ends broke off.


Use a long cotter pin to replace missing wire ends.
The cotter pin goes through the barrel nut.
The broken wire end is looped through the hole in the cotter pin.
Easy fix.
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That's nice, mcguyver would be proud... except I don't have barrel nuts. Going to see if I can find something similar at local hardware store
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post Nov 27 2015, 08:29 AM
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Barrel nuts:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/SuperC...T_pg1.htm#item1
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post Nov 27 2015, 11:30 AM
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I don't usually post pics of my work but this qualifies for at least honorable mcguyver mention. I used @Spoke's idea of a piece of cable and u-clamp and @Barefoot's idea of crimp sleeves, used cable ferrules. So far works fine - I'll buy the real parts if it fails!

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