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flapper box heater attachment - RESOLVED!, with help from this board - many thanks!!!! |
wndsnd |
Jan 6 2013, 09:48 AM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
Porsche Workshop Manual shows arms on top: |
Dr Evil |
Jan 6 2013, 09:57 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,993 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You can get barrel nuts at the "Help" section at your FLAPS. They are the section with various prepackaged parts for all kinds of things. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Are your heater wires untangled inside the center tunnel? |
tadink |
Jan 6 2013, 11:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 379 Joined: 28-December 09 From: Napa Member No.: 11,181 Region Association: Northern California |
THANKS everyone - I'm headed down the hill to check out the local Napa Auto parts store - located in Napa, CA. Try to google THAT with any hope of success....waaaaayyyyy to many "Napa's" in that search string! LOL
It could be that with a longish barrel nut, the cables might just work. I panicked and said they were 2" off, actually, they are just almost able to touch the end of the cable to the end of the bracket, and it could be that the longer barrel nut gizmo might make it work. My own tool kit was woefully inadequate when I was trying to McIver something together....maybe I'll have better luck at the car parts store? Home Depot, orchard supply hardware, Ace, etc. I'll keep you posted.... thanks again for the pix and research.... td |
steuspeed |
Jan 6 2013, 12:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,003 Joined: 12-July 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 13,308 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
In my case the passeger side wire was too long because the connecting pipe to the flapper valve was bending/pulling towards the middle of the car. Maybe yours are bent/mounted further away from the center of the car making the wire just a tad short?
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Gint |
Jan 6 2013, 01:13 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,063 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I can't tell from your picture, are your arms two pieces? They are two piece with an elbow in the middle. If you only have one part of the arm, your cables are going to be to short. And you won't have the loop that the barrel nut slips into that is on the end of the outer arm. Just a thought...
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wndsnd |
Jan 6 2013, 01:22 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
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Gint |
Jan 6 2013, 01:23 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,063 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Good and krusty, but it's all there.
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wndsnd |
Jan 6 2013, 01:33 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
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tadink |
Jan 6 2013, 07:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 379 Joined: 28-December 09 From: Napa Member No.: 11,181 Region Association: Northern California |
YIKES - I thought mine looked bad....sheesh.
OK< update: I have heat! Napa parts came up with a barrel nut that was of course too large for the porsche part it is supposed to fit into. Given that the weekend is nigh over, and heat remains a priority - I was able to modify the barrel nut to fit the end of the wire, and then gave a mighty tug to ensure it would not slip off - - - - wait for it - - - - and gained about an inch or so in length when something gave way in the tunnel. good grief. However, it remained to find a way to secure / attach the barrel nut to the flapper arm - and with some good old coat hanger ingenuity - we now have heat! I'll do it right when I find the right barrel nuts - but for now we are back on the road! Thanks guys for all your help - I think this myth is busted! cheers td |
Gint |
Jan 6 2013, 08:26 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,063 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Make sure you didn't just pull one cable against another in the tunnel. Check clutch and accelerator function.
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arsprod |
Nov 26 2015, 01:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 199 Joined: 14-March 15 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 18,519 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The cable ends on my car were cut when I bought it. I got some wire of similar gauge and tiny U clamp from the hardware store to extend the cables. The cable extensions don't have the special end but those aren't necessary to terminate the cable at the flapper valve. Sorry to be a zombie but how did you connect the bare wire to the flapper box arm? I have wire but both ends broke off. |
Dave_Darling |
Nov 26 2015, 08:52 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,974 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The barrel nut should be able to crank down enough to even hold onto a bare wire. You might be able to crimp or solder on a thicker end if you feel it's necessary.
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barefoot |
Nov 26 2015, 09:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,264 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States |
The barrel nut should be able to crank down enough to even hold onto a bare wire. You might be able to crimp or solder on a thicker end if you feel it's necessary. --DD You can buy crimp sleeves used on fishing line, check your hobby shop as well. I purchased a beetle heater cable set cheap but have not pot things together yet to see if that will work. An official 914 heater cable is $$ Barefoot |
arsprod |
Nov 27 2015, 07:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 199 Joined: 14-March 15 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 18,519 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The barrel nut should be able to crank down enough to even hold onto a bare wire. You might be able to crimp or solder on a thicker end if you feel it's necessary. --DD You can buy crimp sleeves used on fishing line, check your hobby shop as well. I purchased a beetle heater cable set cheap but have not pot things together yet to see if that will work. An official 914 heater cable is $$ Barefoot Problem is I only have one barrel nut and it's toast. The crimp sleeves is a great idea - thanks gents |
rgalla9146 |
Nov 27 2015, 07:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,538 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
The cable ends on my car were cut when I bought it. I got some wire of similar gauge and tiny U clamp from the hardware store to extend the cables. The cable extensions don't have the special end but those aren't necessary to terminate the cable at the flapper valve. Sorry to be a zombie but how did you connect the bare wire to the flapper box arm? I have wire but both ends broke off. Use a long cotter pin to replace missing wire ends. The cotter pin goes through the barrel nut. The broken wire end is looped through the hole in the cotter pin. Easy fix. Picture. Attached thumbnail(s) |
arsprod |
Nov 27 2015, 08:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 199 Joined: 14-March 15 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 18,519 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The cable ends on my car were cut when I bought it. I got some wire of similar gauge and tiny U clamp from the hardware store to extend the cables. The cable extensions don't have the special end but those aren't necessary to terminate the cable at the flapper valve. Sorry to be a zombie but how did you connect the bare wire to the flapper box arm? I have wire but both ends broke off. Use a long cotter pin to replace missing wire ends. The cotter pin goes through the barrel nut. The broken wire end is looped through the hole in the cotter pin. Easy fix. Picture. That's nice, mcguyver would be proud... except I don't have barrel nuts. Going to see if I can find something similar at local hardware store |
barefoot |
Nov 27 2015, 08:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,264 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States |
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arsprod |
Nov 27 2015, 11:30 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 199 Joined: 14-March 15 From: Indianapolis Member No.: 18,519 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I don't usually post pics of my work but this qualifies for at least honorable mcguyver mention. I used @Spoke's idea of a piece of cable and u-clamp and @Barefoot's idea of crimp sleeves, used cable ferrules. So far works fine - I'll buy the real parts if it fails!
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