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timothy_nd28
post Jan 14 2013, 04:50 PM
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I noticed that this forum is modeled by "Invision Power Board v9.1.4 © 2013 IPS, Inc. "

After Googling, I noticed a much nicer version.
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Can this old POS be upgraded to something easier on the eyes?
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post Jan 14 2013, 04:57 PM
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Hey Andy,
Sounds like someone just volunteered for unpaid, long-hour job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:08 PM
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What's the matter with the way It is?
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jan 14 2013, 02:50 PM) *
Can this old POS be upgraded to something easier on the eyes?

You shouldn't have skipped those motivational classes ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)


This old version was a one time expense (compared to the subscription monthly payments for the new version).
Also, and even more importantly, over the last 10 years we have accumulated many, many, many custom modifications to the board source code to improve the site.
All that custom code would be lost with an update.

And then there's the issue of migrating the old data to a newer system. Our old version is not upgradable so this would have to be a manual process.


So, at this point, unless someone here volunteers to do all that work, there's no way i will have the time and energy to tackle a project like that.
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:18 PM
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Also, new code means new exploits for hackers.

Have you tried alternate skins/colors in the bottom left menu?

Oh, and you should upgrade your POS 914 for a Boxster. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:23 PM
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OLD code means MORE exploits for hackers. But believe me I know the stakes and don't mean to enter a dog into the fight.

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post Jan 14 2013, 05:26 PM
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Don't Hackers give up on Old Code and go Trolling for the New Stuff?
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:30 PM
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OLD code means MORE exploits for hackers.

I would agree if we were running an out-of-the-box version of IPB. We've taking steps to close exploits on our own, beyond the efforts of Invision. New features mean new openings.
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 14 2013, 03:30 PM) *
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OLD code means MORE exploits for hackers.
I would agree if we were running an out-of-the-box version of IPB. We've taking steps to close exploits on our own, beyond the efforts of Invision. New features mean new openings.

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Our code base is 10 years old an was the last version before they went to a completely new code base.
Meaning, by then most bugs and exploits had already been patched in our code base.

We have not had any hacks or exploits on this code base for at least 8 years. All the wannabe hacker kiddies have long moved on to greener pastures.
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post Jan 14 2013, 06:04 PM
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Not to enter in on any side of this, but at some point won't this code base become unsupportable?

A company I support has an Access 97 application that would no longer run on windows 7 and had to be completely rewritten from scratch at great time and expense becuase the 15 year old application had never been upgraded.
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post Jan 14 2013, 06:11 PM
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Not to enter in on any side of this, but at some point won't this code base become unsupportable?

Supportable by whom? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

The site is written in PHP which won't be going anywhere anytime soon. I don't see any reason why this code base would simply stop working some day.


And even if that did happen, i already have a backup plan that would allow us to keep all the existing posts and images.
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post Jan 14 2013, 07:09 PM
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[EDIT] This place is awesome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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post Jan 14 2013, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 14 2013, 05:11 PM) *

QUOTE(914Eric @ Jan 14 2013, 04:04 PM) *
Not to enter in on any side of this, but at some point won't this code base become unsupportable?

Supportable by whom? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

The site is written in PHP which won't be going anywhere anytime soon. I don't see any reason why this code base would simply stop working some day.


And even if that did happen, i already have a backup plan that would allow us to keep all the existing posts and images.
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Thanks SirAndy, this site is excellent!
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post Jan 14 2013, 07:34 PM
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Does the new software have a PM reply-all button?

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post Jan 14 2013, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 14 2013, 03:26 PM) *

Don't Hackers give up on Old Code and go Trolling for the New Stuff?

Hah, hardly. Well, some do, but thousands more exploit the exposed holes. Ask Microsloft. There's a reason for "patch Tuesday." If you run Windows and follow that logic, you are at a huge risk. Run your updates!

But glad to hear this board is in a bit of a different boat, because our admins are handling the patches in house.

V9.1.4 rules.
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post Jan 14 2013, 08:51 PM
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FWIW I am on several forums and this one is BY FAR the most user friendly when it comes to PM's, and especially posting pics. Some other sites pic posting setup just plain sucks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


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post Jan 14 2013, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(scotty b @ Jan 14 2013, 09:51 PM) *

FWIW I am on several forums and this one is BY FAR the most user friendly when it comes to PM's, and especially posting pics. Some other sites pic posting setup just plain sucks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


Thanks Andy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


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post Jan 14 2013, 09:15 PM
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post Jan 14 2013, 09:48 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I'm extremely grateful for what Andy has done for all of us, especially during the DOS attack endeavor this past summer.
But, last week in the school's computer lab, a friend poked fun at this forum, stating that his commodore 64 has a better GUI than this site. I can handle the NARP statements, however it's a different story when someone yell's NARF (forum)

I agree totally about leaving stuff alone when its not broken. However, what exactly would it take to update this forum to the 21'st century? Are we talking a few hours and a couple hundred dollars? Or, are we talking months and a few thousands dollars? Perhaps we employ some illegal immigrant programmers, to carry out the tedious tasks
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his commodore 64 has a better GUI than this site.

He's obviously too young to actually have worked with a C64 since the C64 did not have a GUI at all.


You're either looking at a complete, custom re-write of the forum software or a tedious migration to a off the shelf product.

Pick your poison. Both solutions will take a good amount of time which i don't have. The $ aspect is secondary if i don't count my time as $. The time aspect however is a deal killer for me since that is the one thing i do *not* have.

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