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Eric_Shea |
Nov 13 2004, 09:56 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I've always held this "theory" that they developed 912 models (all of them) around left-over engines. I say it rather tongue-in-cheek, however...
It seeems like they were in fairly short supply of T4's for the 76 run but check out how long the leftover 356 motors lasted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (now ask yourself about a 914-6... 1970 is the year 911s went to 2.2. Was that just another "leftover engine" project? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ) |
914ghost |
Nov 13 2004, 01:16 PM
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BOB Group: Members Posts: 406 Joined: 25-November 03 From: Wenatchee Washington Member No.: 1,387 |
I think the deal is you gotta have an entry model- or else people show up at the dealer and say "What Else You Got?". AND get rid of the old stuff, gauges, seats, engines..
If you notice they run the entry level model and then come up with a new one when they run out of old parts-! 912 turned into 914, 914 turned into 924, 924 turned into...I forget. Muy .02 is the 912E is a GREAT car- great balance between durability, economics, styling and performance. It's got "some" of everything. The 914 has more of one than another, the 911 same- the 914-6 HOWEVER- should have replaced the 911 dammit!- or at least been sold right next to it. Either way we're right where we would have been- The Boxter is the new 914 (complete with early model run defficiencies!) and the Carrera GT is the new 914-6 - which EVERYBODY WANTS!! The Type 4 engine is "better" than the 616 (912) engine- but that's the way things go - you make a better version later. If the car is a good deal you can't lose- it wont ever be worth less in the future- well, not until 2008 when we run out of oil. I have a 68' 912 totally stock and a 70' 914 (1.8L carb'd)- and I'm dirt poor, but can't bring myself to sell either one!! I honestly couldn't tell you one is better overall than the other- they both rock! I have a feeling that I'd pick the 914 if it was as nice as my 912 though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Bob O |
Carlitos Way |
Nov 14 2004, 12:36 AM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
Well, I hate to bring this thread to a sad conclusion, but I went to see the car....
and it's not a 912... it's not a 914... or a 911.... It's a 924!!!! I lost all desire to deal with it... the tires have bad rubber... engine wouldn't crank, needs a new interior... maybe it would make a good race car for someone who is going to strip the interior... Body is fairly straight, silver color. Looks like original paint, but the car has been sitting too long for me to even THINK about reviving it. Any 924 fans??? Per the owner of the car, it passed smog "with flying colors" the last time he had it smogged (2001) but the car hasn't been cranked or moved since then. It is currently registered as non-op. C. |
IronHillRestorations |
Nov 14 2004, 10:22 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,717 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
The down side to a '76 912E is if you've ever got to replace the exhaust system, they are unobtainium.
I've heard mostly positive comments about these cars, ie not enought power to get you in trouble. I've always thought that if you wanted a type four powered car the 914 would be a better choice, as it's much lighter than the 911 body. My personal feelings are, although the car seems to have a loyal following, why would you want a 911 with a 914-4 engine? The same engine works so much better in the lighter (more fun) chassis, why not get a six powered tail-dragger? Again, just my .02 |
Sammy |
Nov 14 2004, 11:01 AM
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. Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 178 |
LOL a 924 that doesn't run? you spent more in gas money going to see it than the car is worth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Carlitos Way |
Nov 14 2004, 12:01 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Sammy @ Nov 14 2004, 09:01 AM) LOL a 924 that doesn't run? you spent more in gas money going to see it than the car is worth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Yeah... lucky for me it's within walking distance... (but of course, this being California, I still DROVE to see it). C. |
lapuwali |
Nov 14 2004, 12:19 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
QUOTE I've always thought that if you wanted a type four powered car the 914 would be a better choice, as it's much lighter than the 911 body. Quite true of the 912E, which was relatively heavy. The early 912s, however, were pretty light. With the 912 engine, they're 2200lbs. A Type IV weighs a tad more than the 912 engine (like 20-30lbs), can be made into a 2.0 to 2.2L engine relatively easily for as much power as a 2.0 911 engine, and is a lot cheaper to rebuild than the 912 or 911 engines. So, a Type IV in an early 912 makes sense. It's not the same thing as a 914 in terms of handling, but it's a much more comfortable touring car. Having both (914 and 912) is the ideal combination. |
Eric_Shea |
Nov 14 2004, 12:59 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Gut the interior and put a 924GT body kit on it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Autocross the piss out of it. |
redshift |
Nov 14 2004, 01:20 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
QUOTE(cmolina @ Nov 14 2004, 02:01 PM) QUOTE(Sammy @ Nov 14 2004, 09:01 AM) LOL a 924 that doesn't run? you spent more in gas money going to see it than the car is worth ;) Yeah... lucky for me it's within walking distance... (but of course, this being California, I still DROVE to see it). C. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) M |
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