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What did you do WRONG on your 914 Today |
76-914 |
Apr 14 2013, 09:10 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,455 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
OK, I'll start. I don't expect that this thread will catch on because, after all, we are men (most of us) and we don't need instructions nor ask directions, right? DD's admission to using the wrong screw on the interior door handle made me realize there may be place for FU's like this and that it could be used in a preventative manner. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
I can't remember all my FU's (and there have been many) but this one is fresh in my mind as it happened yesterday. After bragging about my new shop press I must point out that it only works as well as the idiot operating it. After re-installing my trailing arms I noticed a very noticeable amount of slop in the hub as I put the wheel back on. I pulled the arm off and found that I had not placed a back up behind the bearing, rather the bearing receiver, when pressing in the hub. As a result the bearing separated appx 1-2mm. Placed it back on the press with the proper back up and 2 seconds later is was properly pressed in. I've come to the sad realization that you can't fix stupid. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
914itis |
Apr 14 2013, 09:50 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
Oh well, I can start,
As I was moving my fuel pump to the front, I crossed the fuel lines by accident. Took me a few cranks of no atart to notice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
MrKona |
Apr 14 2013, 10:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 25-July 05 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 4,469 Region Association: None |
The other day I was adjusting my points. Quick gap change, dust cover, distributor cap back on, car won't start... great.
Re-adjust them to the same gap as before. Put it all back together and car still won't start. It was at that time I noticed the rotor sitting on the trunk. |
d914 |
Apr 14 2013, 10:08 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,331 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States |
My list is long and varied ,, but since mine is not running,,, last mistake,, ordered wrong part... R-ordered lost another couple weeks!!
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effutuo101 |
Apr 14 2013, 11:26 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
I miss positioned my thumb and drilled through it. I got my turn buckets in with a blood sacrifice.
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Rav914 |
Apr 14 2013, 11:35 AM
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All-weather fan Group: Members Posts: 738 Joined: 15-April 07 From: WA Member No.: 7,669 Region Association: None |
Not today, but the most recent work invloved cutting out a rusty right hand shelf to weld in rust free pieces. I was wondering why the metal was 'sweating'? Turns out I cut right through the brake line. Thankfully Eric at PMB has them in stock:)
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eyesright |
Apr 14 2013, 11:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 430 Joined: 8-January 12 From: OK Member No.: 13,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I rebuilt my engine and everything looks right. It takes a week to hook everything up especially the Bursch exhaust that doesn't fit quite right.
But finally I crank it and it doesn't even try to start. I can hear fuel pumping back into the tank so I figure no spark. Timing light confirms this and multimeter shows 12 volts at the coil...hmmm, maybe dirty points despite my best efforts to clean them after distributor teardown. Pop the dizzy cap off and clean the points....but whatsthis???!!! somehow the points arent even connected.....SURELY they came undone somehow. Yeah, right. So, connect the points, put cap back on, oops, take cap back off, put rotor back on, put cap back on and it should start right up. Loud exhaust pop but no start. hmmm, maybe some fuel was sitting in the exhaust so try again. Loud pop and trying to start but only on a couple of cylinders. Rule #1 is always think of the worst most complicated thing I could do wrong......do I have a valve WAY too tight or something So I jack one side up and take the wheel off. When I see how impossible it is to get at the valves now that the HE's are installed I remind my self that no matter how insecure I am, I set those valves three times and I can hear that there is plenty of compression when I cranked it. Why did I go this way anyway? So wheel back on, jack down, and just why didn't I check my plug wires before I did any thing else? So I found #1 and #2 switched. Obviously someone has been in here just trying to mess with me....even tho I am 10 miles out of town....Anyway, I set that right and of course it started right up. Now I have 100 miles of on and off the throttle in 4th gear and I find oil leaks from the front and rear of the case. Oil pressure sender, oil cooler, oil pump areas are dry. I hope those front and rear seals tighten up. And oil pressure reads low. I have to hope its the new VDO double pole sender and gauge I installed giving faulty signal/reading. Hope I didn't do anything REALLY dumb. |
euro911 |
Apr 14 2013, 11:49 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
1. I've purchased five 914s in my lifetime (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
... and 2. OUCH |
Dave_Darling |
Apr 14 2013, 11:51 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,974 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Oh, lord--I could write pages on this...
Probably one full page on alternator replacement. Did you know that you get pretty good at something when you do the same job three times in a row? (As long as you don't count the parts you left out the first couple of times.) And that red wire with the ring terminal on it? Yeah, you kind of need to hook that one up too. Kinked fuel lines by the score. Well, ok--only a few times. Shredding engine tin screws with the wrong-sized screwdriver. Troubleshooting for hours and hours on the ignition system when I had bumped the CHT sender wires and disconnected them by accident. Lousy crimps on connectors I installed, or splices I made. Make for interesting symptoms, and occasional exciting sparks under the dash! And then there's the whole trunk roller replacement fiasco. And grabbing an ignition wire that wasn't actually completely secure. And launching the VERY SHARP seatbelt retractor spring past my face at mach three. I'm more afraid to try to list what I haven't done wrong!!! --DD |
MrKona |
Apr 14 2013, 01:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 25-July 05 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 4,469 Region Association: None |
And grabbing an ignition wire that wasn't actually completely secure. And launching the VERY SHARP seatbelt retractor spring past my face at mach three. I've done both of those too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Elliot Cannon |
Apr 14 2013, 02:36 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
Not today, but the most recent work invloved cutting out a rusty right hand shelf to weld in rust free pieces. I was wondering why the metal was 'sweating'? Turns out I cut right through the brake line. Thankfully Eric at PMB has them in stock:) He does?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
relentless |
Apr 14 2013, 02:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 1-April 07 From: Oregon Member No.: 7,636 |
Well my biggest blunder I did as a young man about 30 years ago. I was installing an amp in the passenger bulkhead using a drill (you can see where this is going, right?) for some sheet metal screws. Yep, I drilled clear through the bulkhead and then clear through the gas tank! I had a nice stream of gas coming into the passenger area and I think I set a record removing the tank! It is amazing how fast you can remove one with proper motivation and having done it before.
But now a story that tops them all. This is from a friend and co-worker: He brought his 914 into the garage and started working on some rust damage on the battery tray. He used a grinder with a cutting wheel on to shear through the sheet metal in anticipation of replacing it. Not realizing that the gas lines ran under the batt tray, he managed to cut through them and still with 30psi of pressure from the pump. Well, sparks and gas are a bad, bad combination, and the car caught on fire. The fire spread... My friend didn't own a fire extinguisher, much less have one handy as we ALL SHOULD when working on our cars in any fashion that would warrant one. Not only did my friend lose his car that day, but also his house and all his posessions inside. Please file this away for a rainy day, always have safety equipment available and that includes a fire extinguisher! |
Phil Plummer |
Apr 14 2013, 06:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 7-January 12 From: Edmonton Ab Canada Member No.: 13,973 Region Association: Canada |
OK, I'll start. I don't expect that this thread will catch on because, after all, we are men (most of us) and we don't need instructions nor ask directions, right? DD's admission to using the wrong screw on the interior door handle made me realize there may be place for FU's like this and that it could be used in a preventative manner. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I can't remember all my FU's (and there have been many) but this one is fresh in my mind as it happened yesterday. After bragging about my new shop press I must point out that it only works as well as the idiot operating it. After re-installing my trailing arms I noticed a very noticeable amount of slop in the hub as I put the wheel back on. I pulled the arm off and found that I had not placed a back up behind the bearing, rather the bearing receiver, when pressing in the hub. As a result the bearing separated appx 1-2mm. Placed it back on the press with the proper back up and 2 seconds later is was properly pressed in. I've come to the sad realization that you can't fix stupid. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Well my 916 clone runs awsome and purrs like a kitten on steriods!!! What I did WRONG was listening to Elegant motors in Edmonton Canada When I was sold a 930/10 engine for a good price and yes it is a great Engine , However the owner had quoted 3000 to install Engine in my 914 and of course I supply all parts the moment my check cleared the owner of Elegant motors whom I had made the agreement with ordered me to remove my engine and he was "Too busy to do it" 2 yrs went by and after helping pull several Lotus engines Ferrari and Lambo Trannys as well as picking up parts in hopes of getting shop time ..After some alcohol consumed he admitted he did not have the knowledge to do this conversion by this time I had taken a car that was rust free and ran great and sold the original engine Thus I could not even drive it to PMS or another conversion specialist. I made afew mistakes ..put a fendr ding in the car as things were dropped Etc Greg Collins of Awsome shop in Spruce Grove Ab Canada installed engine and plumbed a nice oil cooler system, collabarated with Richard Johnson and a fine senior in Texas named Wes who is a gold mine of info on wireing. Greg Collins charged less than 4000.00 and the car can now be driven to the body shop where it awaits the flares, double grill,paint and finishes. Those whom I cannot thank enough are: - Richard Johnson-Great motor mount he designed to use with ktronic injection -Brian Day of Patrick motor sports parts for not only selling numerous parts but taking several minutes to offer very valuable advice saving much tme, money and heartache. Wes, the man in Texas for his extensive knowledge on air cooled wireing. Joel at Gt racing for nice headers and advice. Kenedy Engineering World apolstry Pelican parts in particular Glenn at Pelican for his knowledge and direction 20th street Auto And of couse Greg collins of Awsome Shop without whom I have a pile of junk, expensive parts, clutter and grief. Iam thankfull to the 914 world people for advice in many other areas in regard to 914's and conversion-Regards Phil |
Phil Plummer |
Apr 14 2013, 06:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 7-January 12 From: Edmonton Ab Canada Member No.: 13,973 Region Association: Canada |
OK, I'll start. I don't expect that this thread will catch on because, after all, we are men (most of us) and we don't need instructions nor ask directions, right? DD's admission to using the wrong screw on the interior door handle made me realize there may be place for FU's like this and that it could be used in a preventative manner. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I can't remember all my FU's (and there have been many) but this one is fresh in my mind as it happened yesterday. After bragging about my new shop press I must point out that it only works as well as the idiot operating it. After re-installing my trailing arms I noticed a very noticeable amount of slop in the hub as I put the wheel back on. I pulled the arm off and found that I had not placed a back up behind the bearing, rather the bearing receiver, when pressing in the hub. As a result the bearing separated appx 1-2mm. Placed it back on the press with the proper back up and 2 seconds later is was properly pressed in. I've come to the sad realization that you can't fix stupid. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Well my 916 clone runs awsome and purrs like a kitten on steriods!!! What I did WRONG was listening to Elegant motors in Edmonton Canada When I was sold a 930/10 engine for a good price and yes it is a great Engine , However the owner had quoted 3000 to install Engine in my 914 and of course I supply all parts the moment my check cleared the owner of Elegant motors whom I had made the agreement with ordered me to remove my engine and he was "Too busy to do it" 2 yrs went by and after helping pull several Lotus engines Ferrari and Lambo Trannys as well as picking up parts in hopes of getting shop time ..After some alcohol consumed he admitted he did not have the knowledge to do this conversion by this time I had taken a car that was rust free and ran great and sold the original engine Thus I could not even drive it to PMS or another conversion specialist. I made afew mistakes ..put a fendr ding in the car as things were dropped Etc Greg Collins of Awsome shop in Spruce Grove Ab Canada installed engine and plumbed a nice oil cooler system, collabarated with Richard Johnson and a fine senior in Texas named Wes who is a gold mine of info on wireing. Greg Collins charged less than 4000.00 and the car can now be driven to the body shop where it awaits the flares, double grill,paint and finishes. Those whom I cannot thank enough are: - Richard Johnson-Great motor mount he designed to use with ktronic injection -Brian Day of Patrick motor sports parts for not only selling numerous parts but taking several minutes to offer very valuable advice saving much tme, money and heartache. Wes, the man in Texas for his extensive knowledge on air cooled wireing. Joel at Gt racing for nice headers and advice. Kenedy Engineering World apolstry Pelican parts in particular Glenn at Pelican for his knowledge and direction 20th street Auto And of couse Greg collins of Awsome Shop without whom I have a pile of junk, expensive parts, clutter and grief. Iam thankfull to the 914 world people for advice in many other areas in regard to 914's and conversion-Regards Phil I also messed up with a grinder when cutting away a little of the trunk inner wall to make a removable plate for easier engine servicing luckily Greg fixed it. |
Chris H. |
Apr 14 2013, 08:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,024 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Today I took a hiatus from 914 work but the last week or so was pretty bad.
The highlights are: - couldn't get the AC compressor back on the SVX engine, forced it until I heard a *crack*...the wiring connector was trapped under it. - snapped the nipples off of two sensors in the vacuum line setup (each is over $100). apparently this is common but that doesn't help - installing the trans seals for the new trans I bent the first one by LIGHTLY tapping it with the end of a screwdriver. The I pushed the second one in waaay too far and had to fish it out. My all time favorite was the first time I changed a master cylinder. Spent DAYS bleeding the system because I didn't realize the rear calipers had two bleeder valves. So yeah...the pedal was A LITTLE SOFT until I figured that out. |
cwpeden |
Apr 14 2013, 08:45 PM
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Great White North, huh? Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-August 06 From: Victoria BC Member No.: 6,693 Region Association: Canada |
What did I do wrong to my 914 today?
Thats an easy one.....I looked under it. And thats when it all went wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) Havent driven for 2 months. Went for a spin this morning and thought I'd forgotten how to shift. Went under to have a look, turned into: Loose mount at end of bar Fixing broken sheet metal Adjust rear brake venting Get ready to rebuild rear calipers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) And these curious bits of plastic in the firewall boot. I think I found the problem |
76-914 |
Apr 14 2013, 09:23 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,455 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
I laughed so damned hard when reading some of these I literally had tears in my eyes. Misery loves company. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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'73-914kid |
Apr 14 2013, 09:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California |
I never do anything wrong on my 914 Kent..come on, you know that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
In all honesty, I've made quite a few mistakes the first time doing some stuff.. I've completely built a motor and forgot the tins that go between the pushrod tubes and the cylinders.. Didn't notice they weren't on the motor until it was in the car... More recently, I was finish welding the access panel I cut out to repair my clutch tube. The wire split the gap between the panels, zapped the clutch tube, and melted my 3 day old clutch cable sheath... that one sucked.. $30 later, and problem solved..but annoying nonetheless.. Let's see what else.. I think that's all I can really remember at the moment.. |
euro911 |
Apr 14 2013, 10:21 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
And these curious bits of plastic in the firewall boot. Looks like you found a broken Fahrvergnügen stick man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I think I found the problem |
cwpeden |
Apr 15 2013, 12:20 AM
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Great White North, huh? Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-August 06 From: Victoria BC Member No.: 6,693 Region Association: Canada |
YES! That explains everything.
And these curious bits of plastic in the firewall boot. Looks like you found a broken Fahrvergnügen stick man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I think I found the problem |
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