 Headlight Improvement Options, Any Ideas other Than Halogen |
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| Mblizzard |
 Jun 5 2013, 12:35 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States  |
I have looked around a bit but have not found any real options for replacing the stock dim 914 headlights with bulbs that are a real improvement. The halogens are out there but while they are an improvement, they can overwork the wiring. Before I go down the road of running wires and or relays I was wondering if there were any other options?
I have seen some HID kits but they all have external ballasts. I would like to find a HID light that had an internal ballast that fits in the stock headlight that does not require new wiring. Or at the minimum, a light with better output that would not overwork the wiring. The only brighter light I have found that is not $$$ is the Sylvania H6024 Silver Star. Ideas? |
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| messix |
Jun 5 2013, 12:45 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I use Sylvania xtravison. and am happy with them. I run a fog pattern for the fog/driving light to spread a wide pattern around corners.
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| monkeyboy |
Jun 5 2013, 05:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 8-June 08 From: Los Angeles, Ca Member No.: 9,147 Region Association: None |
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| effutuo101 |
Jun 5 2013, 05:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
Use the wireing circuit to contol a relay.
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| Mblizzard |
Jun 5 2013, 06:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
There are certainly a lot of options but non of them seemed to be what I want. I have a HID light for my bicycle that is as bright as any car light and it has an internal ballast. It is simple and clean. There doesn't seem to be a comparable drop in HID light that ism available. So I just went with the halogen bulbs. Better but not the greatest.
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| SKL1 |
Jun 5 2013, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,602 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest 
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We put an HID kit on our F-150 which works pretty well. Got a H4 kit for the 914 but the bulb was too big and long and wouldn't clear the headlight cover itself and stuck back too far...
So going the 100W bulb and relay route. Wiring seems to be a hassle but will hopefully be worth it. |
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| ThePaintedMan |
Jun 5 2013, 07:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
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I have HIDs on my 914 and I LOVE THEM. I would never go back to stock unless I had an original car.
I used el cheapo housings off of Ebay and got my HID kit from a supplier. If you're interested, I'll find the details for you. The only permanent modification was a little bit of cutting on the headlight bucket to allow the harness to fit correctly. It's a tight fit, but it works. Yes, there are external ballasts, but those I fitted to the fenderwell with velcro. The wiring was pretty much plug and play and I could reverse the whole installation if needed. |
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| SirAndy |
Jun 5 2013, 07:47 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,644 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Jun 5 2013, 06:14 PM)  I have HIDs on my 914 and I LOVE THEM. I would never go back to stock unless I had an original car. I used el cheapo housings off of Ebay and got my HID kit from a supplier. If you're interested, I'll find the details for you. The only permanent modification was a little bit of cutting on the headlight bucket to allow the harness to fit correctly. It's a tight fit, but it works. Yes, there are external ballasts, but those I fitted to the fenderwell with velcro. The wiring was pretty much plug and play and I could reverse the whole installation if needed. Tell me more ... And pics ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| ThePaintedMan |
Jun 5 2013, 07:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 5 2013, 09:47 PM) I'll do you one better - I'll take some GoPro video as well as some pics of the setup. I'll try to get out for a night drive tomorrow. Unfortunately I don't have any before pics, so you'll just have to judge for yourself. |
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| dale73914 |
Jun 5 2013, 09:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 209 Joined: 15-September 11 From: Victoria, Australia Member No.: 13,562 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
I'd love to see this too, the headlights in mine are woeful.
And i'm also used to HID's now, so it makes it seem worse than it peobably really is..... Cheers Dale |
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| SKL1 |
Jun 5 2013, 09:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,602 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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I'd love to see a HID kit that fits... the bulbs that came with my kit were WAY too long to fit...
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| monkeyboy |
Jun 6 2013, 07:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 8-June 08 From: Los Angeles, Ca Member No.: 9,147 Region Association: None |
I'd love to see how you controlled the beam pattern. HID's aren't made to slip into a H4 housing. Most of the kits have no upper cutoff point so they blind oncoming traffic.
Also, do you still have high beams? |
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| Mblizzard |
Jun 6 2013, 07:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
Some of the HIDs are bi-Xeon which have the high low beams. Some of the others only have one setting.
I did not find a set up that was available that addresses all of the issues like beam pattern. Well there were some but the cost was out of this world. |
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| iamchappy |
Jun 6 2013, 08:11 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest  |
I may get flamed for this but i found these to be a huge improvement over the sealed beams. Purchased through Ebay, some are better than others, look for the ones that have glass lens with metal housings.
H4 EURO STYLE HEADLIGHTS WITH CITY LIGHTS http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-H6024-6014-H4-EU...793&vxp=mtr |
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| pcar916 |
Jun 6 2013, 09:09 AM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None
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Geez, I found the Hella H4's, even with the 65/55 bulbs, so much better than sealed beams I've never even thought of going for anything else. That said...
It's a cool idea to use LED's just for the power savings. More light and immensely less power? No contest there for a non-concours car. But since my 993 alternator isn't working very hard yet, I'll wait for those to come down a bit. Now, if we could come up with some kind of magical solution against rock damage for all of these lights I'd be excited. |
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| Mark Henry |
Jun 6 2013, 09:48 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The cheap ass improper install HID's that blind other drivers totally fucking piss me off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
Just last night I had a guy behind me and I was so blinded I had turn my all my rear view mirrors. I then let him pass and I totally lit his fucking ass up. I could tell he was annoyed as he was all over the road. He tried to speed up/slow down, I just stayed on his ass. He then took the next exit. I don't care if you don't like this, cocksucker deserved it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) In case you didn't get the hint, illegally bright/incorrectly aimed headlights really piss me off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
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| FourBlades |
Jun 6 2013, 10:36 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,054 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jun 6 2013, 08:48 AM) The cheap ass improper install HID's that blind other drivers totally fucking piss me off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Just last night I had a guy behind me and I was so blinded I had turn my all my rear view mirrors. I then let him pass and I totally lit his fucking ass up. I could tell he was annoyed as he was all over the road. He tried to speed up/slow down, I just stayed on his ass. He then took the next exit. I don't care if you don't like this, cocksucker deserved it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) In case you didn't get the hint, illegally bright/incorrectly aimed headlights really piss me off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) And the same people are also busy sending a text about some totally trivial subject when they rear end you and total your car. John |
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| gandalf_025 |
Jun 6 2013, 10:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,453 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
Aftermarket HID's are illegal and any cop with 1/2 a brain is going to know that
when he stops a 1970's era car with Serious lights. It is just giving them a reason to stop you to look you over. I run those HID's in my wife's Audi A4, but that car at least had HIDS's as an option and I'll just say they are Factory Installed and play stupid. Best thing for a 914 without drawing too much attention from the cops is a set of HIGH WATT Halogens with the proper relays... As in" Feed the main power right off the battery" I run 100 watt low beams with 135 High beams on my motorcycle and I don't overdrive them or blind oncoming traffic.. |
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| messix |
Jun 6 2013, 10:54 AM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You.guys. with the tottaly woefull head lights.... Have you checked the voltage at the light? Have you cleaned all connections and splices in the harness up to the lights? Corrosion at these connections will cause a high resistance that will SAP the light output. Try cleaning it up and using a good sealbeam dot light and you might be surprised.
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| ThePaintedMan |
Jun 6 2013, 11:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
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I can understand that argument for sure. There are a couple things that I considered before using them.
One, our cars are much lower than just about everything else out there. This means it's a lot less likely that light is being scattered as far as those big SUVs with HID lights, but it's also the reason why we're so blinded when they come up behind us - we're directly in the light path, whereas a higher car isn't as susceptible. The main reason why I converted them was because this car will see some night racing in Chumpcar. I try not to drive it at night on the street either because I too hate being blinded by HID d-bags. That being said, I have them aimed low and I have never been flashed by oncoming traffic, so I do not believe them to be blinding people in front of me. I do have the bi-Xenon lights, with both high and low beams. This is the kit I have on the car currently, with 6000k crystal white bulbs (I think). Forget the blue bulbs - the more blue, the less effective they are. http://www.light-pros.com/g5-slim-hid-kit-...-new-low-price/ I think these are the housings I used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-H6024-Open-Beam-...406&vxp=mtr |
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