 Modern Programable T4 ITB Injection, Megasquirt and Bolt-On Trigger Wheel |
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| DBCooper |
 Jun 7 2013, 08:00 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE  Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California  |
From Mario at thedubshop.net:
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net-2618-1370613617.1.jpg) And: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net-2618-1370613619.2.jpg) And CB ITB's: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net-2618-1370613619.3.jpg) He's done some good work for my son's turbo-Subaru bug. I don't know cost or anything, just noticed those while looking for some other things. |
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| rhodyguy |
Jun 7 2013, 08:11 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,054 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
my guess is painfully expensive.
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| nathansnathan |
Jun 7 2013, 08:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 31-May 10 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 11,782 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(DBCooper @ Jun 7 2013, 07:00 AM)  From Mario at thedubshop.net: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net-2618-1370613617.1.jpg) And: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net-2618-1370613619.2.jpg) That is cool. It must be new because I don't remember their having an option for a 36-1 trigger wheel when I started my edis project back in February. I had to fab my own bracket and modify a stock trigger wheel. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-11782-1370615044.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-11782-1370615045.2.jpg) I wonder where that sensor mount is supposed to go? It looks like maybe off the fan housing. I wonder if you have to make holes or if there is any adjustability. Mine is still a work in progress. I am thinking of trying it in gimp mode this weekend. Got to wire keyed power, ground, and put new plugs with the nubbies for the wires I custom crimped, start it up in limp home mode I hope. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-11782-1370615045.3.jpg) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) no hijack intended (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| wndsrfr |
Jun 7 2013, 08:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,428 Joined: 30-April 09 From: Rescue, Virginia Member No.: 10,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Did a wideband A/FR come with the kit also or do you already have one installed.....it will be your best friend for tuning so make sure it's healthy! Keep us posted--tuning is a real brain exercise...
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| r_towle |
Jun 7 2013, 08:50 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,560 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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get him on this forum...get him hearing the Type4 issues.
Maybe he has a solution. A bolt on kit would be my preference, with maps that will get the motor started enough to get it to a dyno... I have a question. In this type of system, how is air measured? How radical of a camshaft could be introduced? Rich |
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| Mark Henry |
Jun 7 2013, 09:18 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(r_towle @ Jun 7 2013, 10:50 AM) get him on this forum...get him hearing the Type4 issues. Maybe he has a solution. A bolt on kit would be my preference, with maps that will get the motor started enough to get it to a dyno... I have a question. In this type of system, how is air measured? How radical of a camshaft could be introduced? Rich It's a microsquirt an off shoot of megasquirt, pretty well the same thing. He's just putting components together in a kit form. This guy is out of the UK and has been doing it quite a while, my guess is this stuff does fit a pancake engine fan. You still have to remove the engine, etc. As far as a MAP goes one could figure out a ballpark MAP, but you would still need to tune with a WB and most likely dyno time. No free lunch on that, a SDS system will save you the dyno time, but you pay for the pro built system. I'd say McMark can put together a similar package for you. |
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| nathansnathan |
Jun 7 2013, 09:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 31-May 10 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 11,782 Region Association: None |
The bolt pattern is definitely for the fan, to fit where an air conditioner pulley would, but it may not fit with stock cooling - a lot of the type 4 builds I have seen had to be upright conversion cooling, that's how most people do it.
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| ThePaintedMan |
Jun 7 2013, 09:40 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,885 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
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Those intakes and throttle bodies are CB Performance units. Don't know about everything else.
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| McMark |
Jun 7 2013, 11:10 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE I'd say McMark can put together a similar package for you. He has for a couple years. Only with a trigger setup that's less complicated and can be installed in the car. With a wiring harness that's actually plug and play. With sensors from GERMAN cars so they look right. I'm sure they're stuff will work, but it's by no means a finished and ready to install setup. |
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| nathansnathan |
Jun 7 2013, 11:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 31-May 10 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 11,782 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 7 2013, 10:10 AM) QUOTE I'd say McMark can put together a similar package for you. He has for a couple years. Only with a trigger setup that's less complicated and can be installed in the car. With a wiring harness that's actually plug and play. With sensors from GERMAN cars so they look right. I'm sure they're stuff will work, but it's by no means a finished and ready to install setup. -If you're cool enough for him to answer your pm's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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| McMark |
Jun 7 2013, 11:27 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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| nathansnathan |
Jun 7 2013, 11:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 31-May 10 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 11,782 Region Association: None |
It's all good. I needed a 36-1 wheel and some adjustability on the angle to do edis. Megasquirt is more flexible that way, where you can compensate for anything in the software.
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| worn |
Jun 7 2013, 12:56 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,143 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-11782-1370615045.3.jpg)
How did you get that photo angle? Edit. No wait, what am I looking at in the first place. Out of my league here (common). |
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| ThePaintedMan |
Jun 7 2013, 01:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,885 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE How did you get that photo angle? Edit. No wait, what am I looking at in the first place. Out of my league here (common). VW Bus engine bay. Source: grew up sticking my head in there many times while dad cussed at me from below while we swapped out engine after engine in his bus. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| DNHunt |
Jun 7 2013, 01:11 PM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
It's hard for me to tell but, if that bracket for the hall sensor is going between the case and the fan shroud there will be some machining needed on the shroud or it will sit wrong. I had to take about an eighth off 2 of the bosses on the fan shroud to mount my sensor.
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| nathansnathan |
Jun 7 2013, 02:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 31-May 10 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 11,782 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(worn @ Jun 7 2013, 11:56 AM) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-11782-1370615045.3.jpg) How did you get that photo angle? Edit. No wait, what am I looking at in the first place. Out of my league here (common). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) hehe |
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| DBCooper |
Jun 7 2013, 02:11 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
Somebody said he's in Great Britain, no. There may be an English company with that same name, I don't know, but this guy is Monroe, WA, just north of Seattle.
Like I said, he was recommended to my son by DIY Autotune, who are long-time reputable, and he did good, fast, and reasonable work. I don't know a lot more than that, but I did send him a link to this thread so he's aware of 914 interest. If you want to contact him directly try The Dub Shop on Facebook, www.thedubshop.net, (206) 414-8456, or e-mail mario@thedubshop.net. He's been doing this part time for a while, just opened this company early this year to do it full time. He assembles Micro and Megasuirts, modifies them according to customer needs, makes harnesses, and sells parts and complete kits for VW A/C engines. |
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| r_towle |
Jun 7 2013, 06:30 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,560 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Micro, mega, macro squirts......how is air measured?
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| DBCooper |
Jun 7 2013, 07:25 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
You'll have to ask him about that. MAP is built in to the boards, I know, but Megasquirt can be configured any way you want it, using any kind of MAF sensor you want to choose. Try www.msefi.com and all your questions will be answered... plus about a million you never thought to ask.
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| Matt Romanowski |
Jun 7 2013, 08:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 878 Joined: 4-January 04 From: Manchester, NH Member No.: 1,507 |
QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 7 2013, 09:10 AM) With sensors from GERMAN cars so they look right. You know Bosch is the AC Delco of Germany, right? |
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