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"If there is a mistake it will find me" ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,375 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
Hello,
I have been trying to find someone who knows 914's in the Los Angeles area. I had an accident a few weeks ago, damaged the front (see images). I have been collection the parts for the repair. I have been asking everyone around here for a shop that knows 914's but not much luck, mostly 911 shops. ![]() ![]() ![]() Along with the front end damage, I have a few rust issues that need to be addressed. I found shops that are willing to do the front end repair but not the rust damage. One of the shops would not touch the car unless I did a full rotisserie restoration. I don't have the funds for that extensive a project. The rust is concentrated in the outer longs area (see images) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I am pretty competent with the 914 mechanicals. I have owned this car for 31 years and have been wrenching it myself, (only other person to do any work on the car in 30+ years is the guy I trust to do my wheel alinements). I am trying to find someone close to the Los Angeles area that has done this before and knows 914's hopefully as well as I do. Thanks in advance for any info you may have. Mike |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I realize you have owned that particular car for 31 years, but if it were me, I would take the funds from the accident payout and find a better tub and transfer parts. That is a bunch of rust to deal with...
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,001 Joined: 6-April 04 Member No.: 1,897 Region Association: None ![]() |
You're in California? Go find a solid roller. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 31-May 10 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 11,782 Region Association: None ![]() |
That tub has had it, man. That rust is bad, like car-fall-in-half bad.
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Spooling.... Please wait ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,378 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
Your looking at 5-10k to repair the rust. Thats not including final paint.. (Another 3-5k for that...)
A SOLID roller would be 2k. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 99 Joined: 28-June 12 From: UK Member No.: 14,613 Region Association: None ![]() |
That must really flex, I'm surprised the doors still open once you're sat in it. Be thankful it was only a light accident. Beyond economical repair for sure.i can't believe you're allowed to drive something that rotten on the roads
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,375 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
I realize you have owned that particular car for 31 years, but if it were me, I would take the funds from the accident payout and find a better tub and transfer parts. That is a bunch of rust to deal with... no accident payout, I rolled under a flatbed truck lift gate. |
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7T Porsh ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Do you have insurance? Should be a total. If no insurance what are you doing on the road?
I pay a little over $100 a year for $10k classic coverage. |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,822 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
You obviously are from back East and drove the car year round...
Terminal by West coast standards,, all the little plastic push plugs are from it being treated with anti rust spray, ie Ziebart or similar, It didn't hold up well, Sorry to see this, Good Luck |
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,375 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
Do you have insurance? Should be a total. If no insurance what are you doing on the road? I pay a little over $100 a year for $10k classic coverage. no collision insurance but I have plenty of liability, truck driver patted me on the back and said he was sorry it happened, no damage to the truck, he just drove away! |
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Hey nice rack! -Celette ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,948 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I've repaired lots and lots of rust damage. Sorry, Put a toe tag on that one. Sentimental value will eat a huge hole in your wallet and leave you wishing you never owned that car.
Even if you were in the rust belt you could get a better car to start with for under 3K. Look in the classifieds here. There has to be a better solution. |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,822 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Found the problem;
QUOTE Started using Quaker State 10w-40 when I lived in NYC New York City (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,375 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
You obviously are from back East and drove the car year round... Terminal by West coast standards,, all the little plastic push plugs are from it being treated with anti rust spray, ie Ziebart or similar, It didn't hold up well, Sorry to see this, Good Luck I bought this car out of Connecticut 31 years ago, the most rust free car I could find, took 6 months to find one in decent condition, paid $3K, worth every penny. 380K miles, driven every day. I understand that there are a good number of "rollers" out there but anything I have seen is just as bad or worse than what I have to work with. Looking at the rest of the car, there is plenty good left in this car. I have the COA with original engine and transmission. I am not trying to make a profit from this car, I just want to drive it for the next 30 years! |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,822 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
well maybe some brad Mayeur long covers, without having to paint the whole thing..
http://914ltd.com/store.php?c=1384303079 definitely one well traveled 914.. check out the seatbelt up high, in one of the pics, well traveled.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() |
You may have actually done yourself a favor by having the accident as it made you take a real look at the car's issues.
I would agree with the other responses that this amount of rust is terminal. You've gotten a lot of great miles on your car, but it's time to say goodbye. Find another tub and you'll be world's ahead and it will be money well spent. |
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,207 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
I just want to drive it for the next 30 years! No going to happen, i'm afraid. I wouldn't touch that one either, i can understand why the shop only wanted to do a full rotisserie repair. But even that would cost you a multitude of what you will pay for a nice roller here on the west coast. You should be able to find a good roller for less than $1k. Then move all the parts over and you'll have a great car that will last you another 30 years. That same $1k will not even get you started on the rust repairs this car needs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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7T Porsh ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
bummer...you ARE lucky. A little faster and...
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,375 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
well maybe some brad Mayeur long covers, without having to paint the whole thing.. http://914ltd.com/store.php?c=1384303079 definitely one well traveled 914.. check out the seatbelt up high, in one of the pics, well traveled.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) I was looking at the Restoration Design "clam shells" I spoke with Peter and he said that the longs needed to be repaired before installing the clamshell (they are just to strengthen the chassis not for rust repair. These look to be something different, I will check them out! Thanks, Mike |
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Hey nice rack! -Celette ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,948 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region ![]() ![]() ![]() |
well maybe some brad Mayeur long covers, without having to paint the whole thing.. http://914ltd.com/store.php?c=1384303079 definitely one well traveled 914.. check out the seatbelt up high, in one of the pics, well traveled.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,887 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
I've seen enough incredible restorations here on cars that were just as bad if not worse (Search Digging into Hell, or John's (FourBlades) restos), to know that any car *can* be saved. The question for you is what is it worth to do so?
If it's truly sentimental value, you'll throw as much money as it as you feel is necessary to save it, whether the rest of us feel it is worth it or not. If you are on a budget that will not allow you to take it to someone who can do the repairs correctly for you, your only option will be to read, read, read the many restorations on here, buy a welder, and do it yourself. If you succeed, the sentimental value of the car will only grow and you might be able to enjoy the car for another 30 years as you hope. That being said, I think the amount of miles you've gotten out of a 3K investment 31 years ago means the car has done it's job and led a good life. If you have plenty of pictures, then you already have what you need to move on to another tub and be happy. No one here will be able to convince you out of something that you truly want to do, so do what your heart tells you, but make sure your pocketbook can support it. |
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