How would the 914 fare today?, A no frills car by today's standards. |
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How would the 914 fare today?, A no frills car by today's standards. |
JawjaPorsche |
Jul 1 2013, 05:12 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
I was playing around the inflation calculator and was having fun with what a 914 would cost today.
In 1970, a new $4,000 914 would be $24,015 today. In 1976. a new $7,000 914 would be $28,657 today. I know these are ballpark figures, I think the 70 914 was under $4K and the 76 was over $7K. Plus our teeners back then had no air conditioning (dealer option), radio (dealer option), no power steering (not needed!), no GPS! I don't think cars are sold today without air? For a new 914 to be sold today it would have to meet more standards today: emissions, air bags, crash tests, etc which would make the 914 cost even more plus change it appearance. Not to mention that the air cooled engine would have a hard time meeting Federal Air regulations without a loss of power. I guess that is why we have the Boxster now. At least the new 914's would not rust like ours! I love my 914 and I am very fortunate that I was alive and financially able to purchase one new in 1973. It was a definitely simpler time. |
carr914 |
Jul 1 2013, 05:16 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,268 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Why VW doesn't come out with the BlueSport is beyond me
The Scion FR-S & Subaru BRZ (same car) are in the $23 -27k range and would be the Target |
ThePaintedMan |
Jul 1 2013, 05:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
Unfortunately, absolutely not. How many people, even here, actually drive their teeners on a *really* hot day? Most people don't even drive them daily.
99.5% of the general population would ever pay that much without getting at least most of the creature comforts. You can get a brand new Nissan, or Hyundai for half of what you calculated, which has A/C, electric windows, locks and mirrors and maybe even navigation. Plus a warranty that insures they'll never even have to change their own oil. You could probably get the modern equivalent, like a Boxster, used for a similar price and have even more comfort (heated/motorized seats, etc.) Even some of the most stripped-down cars like Lotuses still have most of the modern conveniences. If there were a modern-day 914, it wouldn't do nearly as well as it did back then. It surely wouldn't be sold as a mainstream option. We're a unique bunch (some would say (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)) and I like it that way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
73cool |
Jul 1 2013, 06:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 2-June 13 From: Largo Florida Member No.: 15,953 Region Association: South East States |
[quote name='ThePaintedMan' date='Jul 1 2013, 04:23 PM' post='1888220']
Unfortunately, absolutely not. How many people, even here, actually drive their teeners on a *really* hot day? Most people don't even drive them daily. 99.5% of the general population would ever pay that much without getting at least most of the creature comforts. You can get a brand new Nissan, or Hyundai for half of what you calculated, which has A/C, electric windows, locks and mirrors and maybe even navigation. Plus a warranty that insures they'll never even have to change their own oil. ___________ I live in Vegas. It's 117 out and I drove my '73 1.7 all day. Just drank a lot of water. I have a Mazda that's fully equipped, but I love to drive the 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
orthobiz |
Jul 1 2013, 06:15 PM
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effutuo101 |
Jul 1 2013, 06:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,735 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
A big part of the cost was and is the worker expense. With all of the automation in modern techniques, price can be driven down with mass production.
I see cars in India with the same features of our 914's and similar power going for sub 4000. So, I would think that a modern 914 could have a lot of modern features and still fall under the 25k price tag. |
Black22 |
Jul 1 2013, 06:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 886 Joined: 1-November 07 From: Creswell, OR Member No.: 8,290 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
[quote name='73cool' date='Jul 1 2013, 05:08 PM' post='1888251']
[quote name='ThePaintedMan' date='Jul 1 2013, 04:23 PM' post='1888220'] ___________ I live in Vegas. It's 117 out and I drove my '73 1.7 all day. Just drank a lot of water. I have a Mazda that's fully equipped, but I love to drive the 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) [/quote] That candy apple red is BEAUTIFUL!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) |
Nozzle |
Jul 1 2013, 06:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 158 Joined: 6-November 08 From: Lexington Park, Maryland Member No.: 9,725 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I think the real question is:
If you could buy a new version of your current 914 for $30,000, would you? A car with no history or anything in the engine compartment you'd have any interest in working on. A car that has not spent the last 40 years miraculously finding it's way into your life. Or would you rather buy a sweet used Boxster S for the same money and keep your current Teener? I have to say a big part of the experience for me is listening to 'TheDark Side of the Moon' while I work on my car and wondering if the first owner did the same. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
r_towle |
Jul 1 2013, 06:25 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,646 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
You could always buy a chick car, hmmmm
Like a miata |
McMark |
Jul 1 2013, 06:34 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Porsche kept the aircooled 6 alive and powerful well into the 90s. With VW/Porsche dollars behind aircooled four development, I don't think it would be hard to meet emissions standards and increase power.
A real AC system would also be an easy addition, when you have the funds to do the engineering. Especially with todays more efficient compressors. The 914 could be made a viable commercial enterprise, except for one issue. It looks like a classic car and wouldn't appeal to the general masses. But if you imagine that the 914 continued production, just like the 911, you can envision what the 914 of today would be like. Bigger, heavier, more powerful, but still maintaining the essence of the original. |
ThePaintedMan |
Jul 1 2013, 06:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
You could always buy a chick car, hmmmm Like a miata (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) You're not gonna let that one go, are you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif) |
mepstein |
Jul 1 2013, 07:54 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,625 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If the masses wanted a current day 914, the car companies would make them. They're not. We are a very small group of enthusiasts.
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73cool |
Jul 1 2013, 08:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 2-June 13 From: Largo Florida Member No.: 15,953 Region Association: South East States |
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carr914 |
Jul 2 2013, 06:05 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,268 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I know that my Steel-Top resided in Vegas for a couple of years - I bet there are a few around
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bulitt |
Jul 2 2013, 06:16 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
I know what your calculator is telling you, but 4000$ in 1970 was alot of change.
A new beetle was 1999$, a Fiat 850 spyder 2100, a triumph spitfire 2900. I purchased a new corolla in 1973 for 2600$ Very few cars had A/C. Very few homes had A/C or color TVs for that matter. The leap from a corolla to a 914 was, another corolla. You owned a 914 you were BMOC. Hell, You could buy a house in Northern NJ for 25,000$ in them days. |
carr914 |
Jul 2 2013, 06:47 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,268 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I know what your calculator is telling you, but 4000$ in 1970 was alot of change. A new beetle was 1999$, a Fiat 850 spyder 2100, a triumph spitfire 2900. I purchased a new corolla in 1973 for 2600$ Very few cars had A/C. Very few homes had A/C or color TVs for that matter. The leap from a corolla to a 914 was, another corolla. You owned a 914 you were BMOC. Hell, You could buy a house in Northern NJ for 25,000$ in them days. My Parents bought a Volvo 144GL in 1974 for $3800 My Grandparents bought a House in Clearwater for $16,000 |
flipb |
Jul 2 2013, 07:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,767 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If the masses wanted a current day 914, the car companies would make them. They're not. We are a very small group of enthusiasts. I have never seen another 914 in Vegas, and I've lived in this hellhole (pun intended) for 20 years. I would buy another on the spot. Your car is stunning. The minilites are a perfect match for it. This needs to be a COTM nominee. |
larss |
Jul 2 2013, 08:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 429 Joined: 10-September 09 From: Sweden Member No.: 10,787 Region Association: Scandinavia |
But if you imagine that the 914 continued production, just like the 911, you can envision what the 914 of today would be like. Bigger, heavier, more powerful, but still maintaining the essence of the original. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) And in one way that car has been here for a while: the Boxter. /Lars S |
eyesright |
Jul 2 2013, 08:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 430 Joined: 8-January 12 From: OK Member No.: 13,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Check out the VW Buggy Up. Add a targa top and I'd buy one. I drive my 914 all summer here in OK. People think I'm nuts. They're right.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/07/01/...uggy-style-car/ |
Andyrew |
Jul 2 2013, 08:44 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Why VW doesn't come out with the BlueSport is beyond me The Scion FR-S & Subaru BRZ (same car) are in the $23 -27k range and would be the Target You really think the bluesport is going to be mid 20's? I think it would be north of 30, and even possibly 40k... Their Eos model is 35k base... And thats just a run of the mill convertible, not a sports car.. If porsche came out with it, it would be 10k cheaper than the boxster... |
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