New to 914's, how much is this worth? Options

[chadf7]

Im looking to buy a second car and saw a beautiful porsche at a car show the other week. I talked to the owner and discovered the 914, which I never saw before. Ive been searching craigslist and found this. He doesnt have a asking price, just BO. I havent got a clue about 914s and their value so what do you reckon this is worth? Heres the description

You looking at a 74 Porsche 914 dual webers 40mm 1.7 engine.
Aroung 74000 miles and running strong
Over $10,000 invested.
Wide body kit.
Upgraded suspension (bilstein) disk brakes with wide wheels.

make me an offer.. thanks for looking
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[Mike Bellis]

Depending on the underlying rust, $500-$15000

Pictures are deceiving. It looks like a $10,000 car but it needs a close inspection by a 914 expert. Rust is the main killer of these cars. Rust repair can go $20,000+ if seveire.

Under the battery and under the passenger rocker panel are the first places to look. Rust or rot in other places is a major red flag.

[euro911]

It's hard to determine on the internet. Best to have a person who's knowledgeable in 914s inspect it for soundness (rust, condition of chassis, rust, condition of drive train, rust, etc.) needs to be a 'hands on' inspection.

"$10k invested" is easy to do, it could be worth anywhere from 50~80% (shooting from the hip) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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[Hine62]

$10000 invested in what? It could easily cost over $5000 to fix the passenger side rocker panels/battery area unless you can weld them in. I suspect that the wide body kit could cost as much or more than $5000. it wouldn't hurt to ask what 'improvements' were made besides the wide body and suspension. You might ask for a picture of the passenger side door gaps to look for sag or a video walk around of the car.


Also why was the fuel injection pulled off?


I'm sure someone on this forum would be willing to look at the car for you to get the best idea of its value.

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[chadf7]

He said there "are no bad rust areas like other 914's. I'm 19 and this is my second car so I don't have alot to spend. I was hoping around 5k, is that unrealistic? I figured the originality was gone with all the aftermarket parts which you always lose money from.

[Maltese Falcon]

Suspension upgrades?
Disk brakes?
Every 914 came factory equipped with disc brakes. From the photo it looks like the hubs are still 4 lug which will still carry stock non-vented rotors. Wheels do not look high priced. Wide body installation, glass on to the steel 914, I would have your PPI shop check the integrity of the body work as well as everything else on this car prior to any offer to purchase.
Looks like a Sheridan quarter panel and front fender kit, about $3,000. Carb kits are cheap from CB Performance, more costly when Webers or Dellortos are sourced. Add in prep+paint and labor
costs...and you are at about his claimed $10,000 of upgrades.
Get it checked out.
Marty

[hot_shoe914]

How far are you from Peoria? I would contact 914LTD and get Brad to check it out for you.

[walterolin]

"No bad rust areas" is a big time red flag. As noted above, Brad Mayeur at 914LTD would be a good contact. He has an excellent reputation on this site.

And another oddity. The 1.7 liter engine is a fine engine, but it is the smallest, and considered less desireable. You don't usually see a wide body and the other goodies without a bigger engine.

[type47]

And another oddity. The 1.7 liter engine is a fine engine, but it is the smallest, and considered less desireable.

... and if it is really a '74 and really a 1.7L, then it's a replacement engine as the 1.7 was not factory after '73. That said, it may not be a problem as the engine could be built up to whatever on a 1.7 case ...

[damesandhotrods]

Craigslist and “haven’t got a clue” are a recipe for heartache. You should take a few minutes and take a look at some of the restoration threads too get an idea of what kind of rust can be lurking. Ask to see the receipts for the work done, or at least for the parts purchased, with Porsches documentation is very important. Have you sat in a 914? For example, that Momo wheel looks nice but you might not be able to read much of the speedometer. A pre-purchase inspection is always a good idea, and it helps to look into them before you need one. Another thing to think about, summer is starting to draw down, once fall and winter set in the market shifts toward the buyer.

[ellisor3]

If that car was raced, without additional structural support like a roll cage (not in photos) or a body strengthing kit, any small area of rust may be a big problem. Small cracks can create stess points everywhere in the car. Especially check the longs and the suspension connection points in the rear.

[mepstein]

How far are you from Peoria? I would contact 914LTD and get Brad to check it out for you.

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[Woodside914]

He said there "are no bad rust areas like other 914's. I'm 19 and this is my second car so I don't have alot to spend. I was hoping around 5k, is that unrealistic? I figured the originality was gone with all the aftermarket parts which you always lose money from.

Judging by the look of it & all the racing mods done to it, I don't think he'll take $5K....you may end up sinking a lot more into it over the years anyway - if I were you @ 19 (I wish...) I'd wait and get one that is a bit more original in decent shape, with a lot less aftermarket crap to worry about.


Just my 2 cents,
Ken

[Spoke]

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It is impossible to put a price on it without knowing what is in the car and what condition (rust) the body is in.

If it is close to you, go take a look at it and drive it. What the hell; that's the best thing about looking at a sports car; you get to drive someone else's car without buying it.

Look for rust; look for engine oil leaks; see if the fender flares are fiberglass or steel.

If you really like it after seeing it and driving it, get someone who knows 914s (Brad?) to look at it with you.

[rick 918-S]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with the others here. Check the underside of the passenger side rocker cover. (under the fabre glas) from the b pillar back to the rear wheel. Any signs of rust or repairs could spell trouble unless the repairs we done correctly. Hire Brad to check out the car. Hell he may even know of the car and it's history.

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[chadf7]

I got a little more information. Here's what he sent me.
"don't really know everything about the car so im not sure about the strengthened. I got this car just 5 weeks ago. Don't get me wrong I love the car, but im dealing with some financial problems and I cant keep it. I don't believe this car was raced. This 914 is in good shape for 74.

Ok the bads!!!
4th & 5th gear don't pot in, the linkage needs to be adjust.
the seal for the roof top need 2 be replace.
no key to lock the doors, but have key 2 start car.
the back trunk don't closed."

Seems iffy :/

[euro911]

Sounds like the seller isn't that knowledgeable about 914s. Hate to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif) , but again, see if you can get a local forum member to do a PPI on it.

[ellisor3]

You will definitely want to see what is under that diamond plate.

[chadf7]

Hopefully I can look at it soon. The ad was deleted so maybe it sold already! If not though lots of things to look for