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> I've been cuttin' some more, rear end is just about gone
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post Dec 6 2004, 08:40 PM
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This weekend I welded the 1 1/4" tube that locates the rear tranny mount. After that I was able to cut out the left side sheet metal. I have a BIG pile of metal left over. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)


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post Dec 6 2004, 08:41 PM
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I have to fit the top tube on the right and than I can pull the engine and fit and weld the rest of the right side bars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)


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post Dec 6 2004, 08:47 PM
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So I'm standing there looking at this big hole where the engine goes and thinking... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

What kind of engine would make a less than 1,500 pound car really haul ass? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Should I pick up a cheap chevy or a B13 rotory? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

Sure would be easy to install all the plumbing.

Whata think? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

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post Dec 6 2004, 08:54 PM
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Man ury, you should just build a tube frame like brad's old POC racer at this point! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Looks cool, how does it hold up in a wreck.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Dec 6 2004, 09:15 PM
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It's only a autox car, no race tracks.

It needs to withstand a cone hit.
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post Dec 6 2004, 09:43 PM
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very cool. scary, but very cool.


i'm thinking twin motorcycle engines in a 1400 lbs 914.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Dec 7 2004, 02:14 AM
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Rotary would make it lighter.... right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

sbc would well...

hehehe.... oh, boy... that would make the ferrari boys pee their pants...

I've been waiting to hear you talk about different engine's.....


Heck Im sure jake could make a nice 300 hp turbo....
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post Dec 7 2004, 07:03 AM
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How about a Q45 Infinity engine. All aluminum V8 with 275HP stock. 1400 pound car with that much power? 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds. Hmmmm
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post Dec 7 2004, 12:12 PM
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Subaru turbo 4cyl is 40lb lighter than a 2.0 TypeIV and 225hp stock. Easily 300hp with just boost and cutting out the cats. 400+hp if you go nuts. $650 + $150 shipping for a 30k mile import motor complete from throttlebody to turbo. Flat-four maintains your low CG too.

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post Dec 7 2004, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(airsix @ Dec 7 2004, 10:12 AM)
Subaru turbo 4cyl is 40lb lighter than a 2.0 TypeIV and 225hp stock. Easily 300hp with just boost and cutting out the cats. 400+hp if you go nuts. $650 + $150 shipping for a 30k mile import motor complete from throttlebody to turbo. Flat-four maintains your low CG too.

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Sounds like a winner. What about torque numbers?

Problem with the B13's, they have no torque to pull you out of the turns in an autox.
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post Dec 7 2004, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(airsix @ Dec 7 2004, 11:12 AM)
Subaru turbo 4cyl is 40lb lighter than a 2.0 TypeIV and 225hp stock. Easily 300hp with just boost and cutting out the cats. 400+hp if you go nuts. $650 + $150 shipping for a 30k mile import motor complete from throttlebody to turbo. Flat-four maintains your low CG too.

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You guys know I prefer a Porsche flat six in my cars.

However, if these Subaru numbers are correct and you don't want to keep a Porsche motor in the car, then why in the hell would you even consider paying $8000 for a 190 hp T-IV (potential time-bomb) engine?

Adding water cooling to the car seems like a small price to pay for reliable, turbo charged, digitally fuel injected, factory power.

pps: all pushrod motors are for antiques.
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post Dec 7 2004, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(airsix @ Dec 7 2004, 11:12 AM)
Subaru turbo 4cyl is 40lb lighter than a 2.0 TypeIV and 225hp stock. Easily 300hp with just boost and cutting out the cats. 400+hp if you go nuts. $650 + $150 shipping for a 30k mile import motor complete from throttlebody to turbo. Flat-four maintains your low CG too.

-Ben M.

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You guys know I prefer a Porsche flat six in my cars.

However, if these Subaru numbers are correct and you don't want to keep a Porsche motor in the car, then why in the hell would you even consider paying $8000 for a 190 hp T-IV (potential time-bomb) engine?

Adding water cooling to the car seems like a small price to pay for reliable, turbo charged, digitally fuel injected, factory power.

pps: all pushrod motors are for antiques.

I could easily sell all my type 4 parts (3 1/2 engines) and afford a flat/turbo'd rice burner.

I would have to repaint my car white witha big red ball on it.
And we're talking about this on Dec 7th. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Dec 7 2004, 01:13 PM
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keep it type 4 dude...

lookin good paul (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 7 2004, 01:16 PM
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Just had an idea; in your efforts to lighten the car have you thought about drilling lightening holes or cutting slots in the carburator linkage crossbar? You could easily pick up several ounces with no real loss of mechanical strength...

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post Dec 7 2004, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Dec 7 2004, 11:13 AM)
keep it type 4 dude...

lookin good paul (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But I want horsepower. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(your shipment is going out today)

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post Dec 7 2004, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(HarveyH @ Dec 7 2004, 11:16 AM)
Just had an idea; in your efforts to lighten the car have you thought about drilling lightening holes or cutting slots in the carburator linkage crossbar? You could easily pick up several ounces with no real loss of mechanical strength...

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Harvey,

I have thought about drilling holes in everything but the driver. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 7 2004, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Dec 7 2004, 12:11 PM)
I could easily sell all my type 4 parts (3 1/2 engines) and afford a flat/turbo'd rice burner.

I would have to repaint my car white witha big red ball on it.
And we're talking about this on Dec 7th. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Paul

No rice? Hmmm, maybe I misunderstood the options.

Since I would only go German in my cars, I would do a 1.8T if I were you.
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post Dec 7 2004, 01:33 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) Cool Paul! I would love to see some of the finished tubes welded into place. My next projects will be adding a stiffening kit to my 914 and maybe even a few tube braces. So this rocks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Dec 7 2004, 02:48 PM
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I'm holding my breath for the honda S2000 guys to start totalling their cars so I can grab an engine.
Imagine a light weight 4 cylinder engine that revvs to over 9500 rpm, with 240 hp stock, all mounted in a sub 2000# 914.
Add an aftermarket supercharger and it is well over 330 hp.
I love the idea of hitting 90 mph in 3rd with a stock 901 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

There's a local hot shoe that races at our AX in an S2000, is always in the top three TTOD and sometimes #1.

Scary to think what it would do if it weighed about 900 lbs. less.
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post Dec 7 2004, 02:55 PM
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The S2000 engine is GUTLESS below 9k though. Thats how lots of those ricer motors are though. I cant stand the EJ20T. My friend has one in the sube and it feels like a 40hp bug until it hits the turbo, then it goes for about 1500 rpm and its all over. It seems like such a novelty.
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