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Paul's stock six conversion |
914itis |
Aug 19 2013, 05:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
As some of you may know already, I picked up an original 914-6 motor and will be replacing my 2.0l 4. on my phoenix red
I know ths s not a big 3.2, but this s a cool upgrade for me. So far I have located all the extra components to complete this conversion. Engine tins headers muffler - triad oil cooler oil tank -Velios with filler neck and dipstick bell crank for transmission to carbs I will be looking for the oil lines. If I am missing anything please give me your expertise. A picture or oil lines diagram will be helpful. The first thing i would like to do is bench test it. As always, all advices are welcome and appreciated Related thread Related thread Thanks Paul (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
914itis |
Oct 1 2013, 03:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks Slitts, I have a 120 degree elbow adapter to the tank.
On another note, what do i do with the breather port out of the filler neck? |
Jeffs9146 |
Oct 1 2013, 03:19 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
Thanks Slitts, I have a 120 degree elbow adapter to the tank. On another note, what do i do with the breather port out of the filler neck? Other people do this with more class than I did but it works for now! Attached thumbnail(s) |
914itis |
Oct 1 2013, 03:33 PM
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It works, right?
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SLITS |
Oct 1 2013, 03:48 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Thanks Slitts, I have a 120 degree elbow adapter to the tank. On another note, what do i do with the breather port out of the filler neck? To a catch bottle if you are using carbs or to the filter element of the carbs. If you have the stock air filter set up it connects to it. On a CIS setup it connects to the airbox. I assume you have the hose that runs from the tank breather connected to the breather on the engine. |
914itis |
Oct 1 2013, 04:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
Correct, I am using carbs. And your assumption is correct.
I guest I need a catch can |
Kirmizi |
Oct 1 2013, 08:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
I removed the 2.0 on preparation for the six, I rwmoved the proportionimg valve and replaced it with a T Place the bulkhead in place. Next, I will be drilling and welding. Ooooooo! Don't let Eric see that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) IIRC the proportioning valve is there to prevent rear wheel lock-up during heavy braking. I'm sure Eric will be here soon to explain, but if not, there's a really good thread where he described how it functions. |
914itis |
Oct 1 2013, 08:50 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
My guess is you'll have the car back on the road and running by Halloween (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Don't see why not. The oil tank kicked my a$&$. It took me aBout 4 hours to install it back with the oil line attached. I had to modify the rocker panel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) I also managed to complete the installation of the bulkhead motor mount. Attached thumbnail(s) |
Jeffs9146 |
Oct 1 2013, 11:56 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
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Where is that photo and what line is that? It looks like it is going to the front. It looks like you are not running your bottom line to the "factory oil cooler", are you running a front cooler? |
914itis |
Oct 2 2013, 06:22 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Where is that photo and what line is that? It looks like it is going to the front. It looks like you are not running your bottom line to the "factory oil cooler", are you running a front cooler? No, this is the driver's side rear fender well, line is facing back going to the engine. For some reasons my iPhone keeps flipping the pictures when u upload it |
Jeffs9146 |
Oct 2 2013, 09:45 AM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
This is what the routing of the line from the very bottom of the tank should look like!
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914itis |
Oct 2 2013, 10:09 AM
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Jeffs9146 |
Oct 2 2013, 10:36 AM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
I think I would have gone straight down and put a 90 so you can drain your tank without having to touch the oil cooler fitting!
Whatever works for you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
914itis |
Oct 2 2013, 12:12 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
Look like you are using metric fitting. I am using AN. I taught of the idea of not having to remove the line at the cooler to drain the oil but Patrick motorsports afvidef me in the lines and I taught that was the norm. I would not take that thank back out unless necessary.
I will call them to see of there is a coupler that I can use. I appreciate and welcome all comments and ideas. Here ia another pic. Attached thumbnail(s) |
914itis |
Oct 3 2013, 09:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
Put on a few more hours today.
I replaced the fork seals at the transmission, installed clutch, bearings and attached the transmission, I also installed the bell crank and get the engine bay ready for a fresh coat of paint. Attached image(s) |
914itis |
Oct 6 2013, 08:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
I got quite a few things done this weekend.
I prepped the engine bay for installation with a fresh coat of paint, cleaned up the wires ..... and engine is placed on the bay, just needs to be bolted. |
Phil Plummer |
Oct 6 2013, 08:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 7-January 12 From: Edmonton Ab Canada Member No.: 13,973 Region Association: Canada |
All the best with your conversion. I completed mine last year. Have an original 914/6 Case rebuilt with 2.2 PC's, E cams, larger valves, weber 40 IDA 3C1's, MSD, stock distributor with points, headers and Leistritz sport muffler. It's a lot of fun to drive! You can see my build thread (bcheney six conversion). The hardest part of the conversion was the oil lines and things for my 3.0 going in after that it wasn't too bad. Iam no mechanic so I wouldn't do it again. but it was very satisfying and rewarding. I found a 2nd gen Mazda rx7 oil cooler is nearly the same demensions as a Porsche front chin oil cooler only a few mm difference and can be found a@ carid.com |
914itis |
Oct 9 2013, 08:37 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
Motor is bolted on , all axles, oil lines and cables are attached.
Installed the shift rod and encountered an issue. Here is the thread. Shift linkage issue |
shawn914 |
Oct 9 2013, 05:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 185 Joined: 13-February 12 Member No.: 14,126 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have the same Triad exhaust for my project. Question: as shown in your images of the engine on the stand and the later image as the engine is bolted in, is the exhaust mounted right? Images I see have it the other way around.
Just asking since I am following your project - speedy that it is. and will find myself setting it up too. Shawn examples: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=114280 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=109255 |
JmuRiz |
Oct 9 2013, 06:31 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,434 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Good point, his muffler is upside down.
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914itis |
Oct 9 2013, 07:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
Yes it was, but has been corrected after noticed that only had 4 inches clearance from the floor .
Thanks. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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