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> what do you think of this 914-6? [I bought it!], back to original Irish Green now
siverson
post Aug 22 2013, 10:06 PM
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(UPDATED with comments below)

From the photos, this is what I see that is not correct. Anything I'm missing?

Not correct / things to fix:
- outside mirror
- speaker boxes
- after market front air dam
- 80s radio
- white valve covers
- rust (?) spots on carpet
- painted (?) headlight motors
- 4-cyl center console
- color change back to Irish Green
- wheel center caps need to be anodized or something
- incorrect jack
- black plastic threshold plates and carpet cleat should be aluminum

Not right but no reason to "correct" (IMO):
- Euro lenses
- Euro driving lights vs USA fog lights
- 15x6 Fuchs (was originally steel)

May or may not be correct:
- horn button is not correct
- center seat fabric should be smooth (Center cushion could be the Colgan aftermarket item, period correct)

questions / not sure:
- antenna may not be right... ?
- repro rear trunk carpet (missing grommet). or might be orig.

-Steve


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post Nov 2 2013, 07:54 PM
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Well I've been digging into fixing all the things wrong with my new -6.

I assumed the engine would need a full rebuild, and of course it did. And like all 914 projects it ends up taking twice and long and twice as much as you'd expect.

I've done 95% of the work on my orange conversion, but for this project I'm just planning on keeping it a stock [very nice] driver and letting some shops do 90% of the work.

I had European Motorsports in nearby Vista do the engine rebuild. They do general euro car maintenance and work on some very high end cars at the same time. An original 73 RS and original speedster were both getting engine rebuilds at the same time as mine. I've never had them do major work like this before, but they come pretty highly recommended.

I'm pretty happy with the results and communication so far, but I thought I'd share some photos here for any additional input you guys may have. While I'm not building a perfect concours car, I guess I did expect things to end up, cosmetically, a little more perfect and shiny. Especially given the $$$$$ involved. Or maybe I'm just way overly anal retentive on my orange car. Let me know your thoughts.

After much deliberation, we re-used the old cylinders and bored them out to 81mm (from 80mm) and have new 81mm pistons. E cams, updated tensioners, and otherwise 100% stock. I really didn't have any interest in trying to get a little more horsepower out of it, because even if I could get 170+ HP out of the little 2.0 (or 2.4 or ...) it would still be a relatively (to a 3.6) slow car. So the build was just to get a very nice 2.0 motor.

Factory 80mm 2.0 pistons are much (like an additional $6k) more expensive than going to 81mm. And in the interest of keeping everything stock, I didn't want to machine the heads for anything larger. I think it will end up with 130 HP or so. Should be fun.

And new flywheel, new clutch, and rebuilt the transmission too...

See any problems? Things that should be changed before it goes back into the car?

My questions:

- is that hardware (1 nut, 1 wingnut) correct for the air cleaner/snorkel?

- I'm guessing blue plug wires are wrong?

- can the carbs be cleaned up easily with a little more effort or ?

- rubber fuel lines ok or should I really bother finding german/cloth lines?

- allen bolts on cam covers look right?

- whats proper for the valve covers? (lowers were updated to later covers)

- what the proper way to cover/protect the oil temp/pressure wires? or is there nothing like it currently is?

Thanks for any tips!

And I'll follow up shortly with the "replace the battery tray" repair that turned into something much more! (first time that's happened in a 914, right?!?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

-Steve


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siverson   what do you think of this 914-6? [I bought it!]   Aug 22 2013, 10:06 PM
siverson   914   Aug 22 2013, 10:08 PM
siverson   And paint (color change from Irish Green) from the...   Aug 22 2013, 10:10 PM
Jaymann   Looks fun:I would drive it!!   Aug 22 2013, 10:11 PM
gms   questions: no center dash vent & no dash vent...   Aug 22 2013, 10:21 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Euro driving lights vs USA fog lights Center cushi...   Aug 22 2013, 10:37 PM
Jasfsmith   Repro rear trunk carpet (missing grommet) My ...   Aug 23 2013, 10:49 AM
Eric_Shea   Tool kit doesn't appear to be basket weave...   Aug 23 2013, 06:30 AM
396   I believe a previous asking was 35k for this -6   Aug 23 2013, 12:04 PM
Chris H.   Painted headlight motors!? RUN AWAY... :barf...   Aug 23 2013, 12:16 PM
siverson   Thanks for the feedback. I updated the first post.   Aug 23 2013, 05:31 PM
JmuRiz   It's just what happens with years of owners cu...   Aug 23 2013, 05:52 PM
lostreasure   Gas tank area is suppose to be painted body color....   Aug 23 2013, 07:12 PM
Gustl   From the photos, this is what I see that is not c...   Aug 24 2013, 11:39 AM
siverson   An update! The seller and I finally came to ag...   Aug 26 2013, 09:45 PM
Gustl   The seller and I finally came to agreement (was a...   Aug 26 2013, 09:57 PM
siverson   > Black plastic threshold plates and carpet cle...   Aug 26 2013, 09:50 PM
Eric_Shea   All original sixes are like that. Six shock tow...   Aug 26 2013, 09:53 PM
Cairo94507   Congratulations! You have yourself a nice Six...   Aug 26 2013, 09:58 PM
Eric_Shea   Only assumptions. I have a video of a 70's ...   Aug 26 2013, 10:06 PM
r_towle   Only assumptions. I have a video of a 70's...   Aug 27 2013, 01:21 PM
racerbvd   I have the correct front valance if you chose to g...   Aug 26 2013, 10:13 PM
396   Steve, Well educated move. You posted it and asked...   Aug 27 2013, 03:08 PM
Eric_Shea   All sixes had those too... :blink: http://www.9...   Aug 27 2013, 09:37 PM
siverson   > I have the correct front valance if you chose...   Nov 2 2013, 07:34 PM
siverson   Well I've been digging into fixing all the thi...   Nov 2 2013, 07:54 PM
siverson   914   Nov 2 2013, 07:58 PM
rick 918-S   To me, there are some things that just make sense ...   Nov 2 2013, 09:25 PM
boxstr   Small 914 world. I looked at that 6 for a customer...   Nov 2 2013, 10:13 PM
sixnotfour   studs on lower covers and get SC lowers , as they ...   Nov 3 2013, 04:43 AM
bcheney   What a cool story and project. I hadn't seen t...   Nov 3 2013, 10:26 AM
siverson   > The turbo valve covers must be machined down ...   Nov 3 2013, 12:10 PM
siverson   > fuel lines is one of them Yup, all the fuel ...   Nov 3 2013, 12:13 PM
bcheney   > fuel lines is one of them Yup, all the fuel...   Nov 3 2013, 03:09 PM
siverson   A couple more photos...   Nov 3 2013, 12:15 PM
Eric_Shea   Neither one is correct on the air cleaner, that sa...   Nov 3 2013, 03:15 PM
JmuRiz   Re: valve covers. Do you need to machine turbo cov...   Nov 3 2013, 04:53 PM
mepstein   Re: valve covers. Do you need to machine turbo co...   Nov 3 2013, 05:35 PM
rgalla9146   Re: valve covers. Do you need to machine turbo c...   Nov 3 2013, 06:27 PM
siverson   > original -6 housing is plastic, low profile w...   Nov 3 2013, 09:15 PM
siverson   Or is this one correct? -Steve   Nov 3 2013, 09:50 PM
rgalla9146   Or is this one correct? -Steve That air f...   Nov 4 2013, 08:34 AM
Eric_Shea   :agree: That's the MFI housing I mentioned. ...   Nov 4 2013, 11:18 AM
johnhora   Steve... went and took a couple of shots of the ai...   Nov 4 2013, 12:18 PM
rgalla9146   Steve... went and took a couple of shots of the a...   Nov 4 2013, 05:52 PM
siverson   Car is back and has a fully rebuilt 2.0 now. Wow, ...   Dec 9 2013, 12:02 PM
siverson   914   Dec 9 2013, 12:02 PM
siverson   914   Dec 9 2013, 12:03 PM
JmuRiz   Yep, it's sitting too low, check to see which ...   Dec 9 2013, 12:27 PM
siverson   > I thought this car was white Yup, the car is...   Dec 9 2013, 12:37 PM
siverson   And some more photos... (before and after) It...   Dec 9 2013, 01:18 PM
ben*james   Nice choice to bring back the Irish Green!...   Dec 9 2013, 01:24 PM
siverson   > I think a Porsche engine rebuild is about the...   Dec 9 2013, 01:25 PM
rick 918-S   > And I have decided to paint the whole bottom...   Dec 9 2013, 01:52 PM
siverson   This was his roommate while getting worked on (it...   Dec 9 2013, 01:41 PM
JmuRiz   Very cool updated pictures, the change back to iri...   Dec 9 2013, 02:15 PM
Cairo94507   I agree with you 100% regarding the underside of t...   Dec 10 2013, 08:55 AM
FourBlades   Nice work on a great car! :beer2: I think y...   Dec 10 2013, 06:50 PM
wndsnd   Real sweet...... :drooley:   Dec 11 2013, 04:01 PM
siverson   I got these photos from the body shop today... Th...   Dec 19 2013, 11:47 PM
siverson   And the battery box area repair. Anything the exp...   Dec 19 2013, 11:58 PM
siverson   And the repair...   Dec 20 2013, 12:00 AM
siverson   914   Dec 20 2013, 12:01 AM
siverson   914   Dec 20 2013, 12:03 AM
rick 918-S   Nice! There moving right along! :sawzall: ...   Dec 20 2013, 06:36 AM
JmuRiz   I think it's safe to say they are all rusted o...   Dec 20 2013, 08:31 AM
siverson   From May 1977 when he was still Irish Green... But...   Dec 22 2013, 01:04 PM
trojanhorsepower   Man that looks great! What are you going to t...   Dec 22 2013, 04:31 PM
sixnotfour   Me and My Six 1979, Irish green all the way :beer...   Dec 22 2013, 04:46 PM
Ferg   Best Color Ever. :headbanger:   Dec 22 2013, 05:29 PM
siverson   > What are you going to tackle next? The car i...   Dec 31 2013, 10:05 PM
siverson   I haven't seen this before. Maybe it's jus...   Jan 5 2014, 11:24 AM
siverson   The wires were embedded in it a bit... -Steve   Jan 5 2014, 11:29 AM
siverson   Why you should fix a loose rear window... Especial...   Jan 5 2014, 11:31 AM
siverson   When I started to pull up all the tar. Note there ...   Jan 5 2014, 11:33 AM
mepstein   :confused: what your showing in the pic should j...   Jan 5 2014, 11:34 AM
siverson   > what your showing in the pic should just peel...   Jan 5 2014, 11:36 AM
rick 918-S   That's weird about the carpet holders....   Jan 5 2014, 11:50 AM
sixnotfour   my six has no carpet holders and factory carpet ha...   Jan 5 2014, 01:46 PM
siverson   > my six has no carpet holders and factory carp...   Jan 19 2014, 12:16 AM
siverson   While I love Fuchs on 914s, and 15x6s are one of m...   Jan 19 2014, 12:23 AM
siverson   That's cosmoline in the first picture, but the...   Jan 19 2014, 12:25 AM
mepstein   I like the look of the gas burners. Mine weighed 1...   Jan 19 2014, 09:35 AM
2mAn   I like the look of the gas burners. Mine weighed ...   Jan 24 2014, 11:37 AM
914Sixer   Correct wheels can be a fuzzy area. They can fall...   Jan 19 2014, 09:39 AM
siverson   > Correct wheels can be a fuzzy area. Sort of...   Jan 19 2014, 01:15 PM
toolguy   That is correct. . .only 14" Fuch's howev...   Jan 19 2014, 01:20 PM
sixnotfour   My version of the Bible shows em, printed 1/74   Jan 19 2014, 01:58 PM
sixnotfour   I think wheel choice was a crap shoot, not an opti...   Jan 19 2014, 02:10 PM
siverson   > My version of the Bible shows em, printed 1/7...   Jan 23 2014, 10:44 PM
sixnotfour   Porsche printed parts list, yes the mahles are l...   Jan 23 2014, 11:07 PM
Cairo94507   I think the Gas Burner is one of the best looking ...   Jan 24 2014, 08:26 AM
siverson   And one last "test ride" before disassem...   Mar 7 2014, 09:47 PM
ben*james   Way to go!   Mar 7 2014, 09:50 PM
siverson   White, green, and black (spray paint! argh...   Mar 7 2014, 10:11 PM
siverson   One spray painted horn, one not. And... are these ...   Mar 7 2014, 10:13 PM
siverson   Removed old aftermarket sway bar. Anyone know what...   Mar 7 2014, 10:15 PM
siverson   Green, white overspray, and original 914-6 grey st...   Mar 7 2014, 10:17 PM
siverson   All four calipers removed and ready to be restored...   Mar 7 2014, 10:18 PM
siverson   Nice... I'm pretty sure these are the original...   Mar 7 2014, 10:20 PM
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