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| scotty b |
 Nov 14 2013, 12:28 PM
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rust free you say ?  Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None  |
It would appear that they are in some serious trouble with the federales.....finally (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Say bye bye (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...meister-50.html http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...r-car-or-engine! http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/pts/4186159974.html Reply vgkfs-4186159974@sale.craigslist.org [?] flag [?] : miscategorized prohibited spam best of Posted: 2013-11-11, 5:27PM PST cheap porsche parts in LA County - $1 (LA COUNTY) If you are looking for porsche parts , buyer BEWARE!!!!! MOTOR MEISTER in Downey Ca has been selling their customers cars including those in fr storage or repair and parting them out. He is about to file bankruptcy, has a potential buyer for the shop and if you have a vehicle here, he has likely lien saled it by sending notification to a purposefully incorrect address. He has over 200 stolen motors that he is lien saleing as well, he is not answering phones and is hiding vehicles in storage places in and around the Downey area. I do not own a Porsche and am not a disgruntled customer, I have worked for small businesses most of my life and seeing what I saw since Friday makes me sick to my stomach. Please retain attorneys and PRESS CRIMINAL CHARGES, this guy thinks he is above the law. I have a list of 12 vehicles that had been moved to storage in an attempt to hide them, when the storage place found out they refused to release the cars back to motor meister, these 12 lucky people will get their cars back, the rest of you can thank Lee Marks the owner, his wife who is currently driving a beautiful Mercedes Benz, his son Jerry Marks and the not very bright office manager Lisa who has handled the lien sale paperwork for all of the missing vehicles I Hope you all find them or receive legal compensation. Location: LA COUNTY it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Posting ID: 4186159974 Posted: 2013-11-11, 5:27PM PST Updated: 2013-11-11, 5:33PM PST email to a friend Avoid scams, deal locally! Do NOT wire funds (Western Union, Moneygram). |
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| oldschool |
Nov 15 2013, 10:33 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
Years ago I got a tour from JR, I told him he should shoot a nice video for his website
Saw the new place as well. btw that video sucks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Nov 15 2013, 10:38 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(oldschool @ Nov 15 2013, 08:33 AM)  Years ago I got a tour from JR, I told him he should shoot a nice video for his website Saw the new place as well. btw that video sucks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) "Sucks"? Not good enough for that rating. Give a basic video camera to a 5 year old and cut him loose, see how much better it is ................... The Cap'n |
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| boogie_man |
Nov 15 2013, 07:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: 22-April 11 From: So Cal Member No.: 12,969 Region Association: Southern California |
I just save my interior guy's ass. He had a customer's car, took the motor
up there and was telling me what a deal he was getting. When I asked who and where, I told him to get his azz back up there and get your stuff back yesterday. He went thru hell for about a week and a half after getting his atty involved was able to get ALL the correct stuff back as confirmed by his new mechanic after they sorted thru what was returned. I told him he was one luck sob and emailed him the links.....Hope these guys go down hard for this as it's not the 80's anymore....... |
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| PanelBilly |
Nov 15 2013, 09:55 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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They got some of my money a long time ago. I did manage to get a big box of parts out of them. Roy put on a good show and Lee seemed to know an awful lot about /6 engines. I always believed they had the skills and connections to build a quality engine, but choose to turn over high volumes with worn parts. Seemed like a pyramid plan where they used the "best" parts from incoming engine to fill the order of the customer who complained the most.
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| liebe |
Nov 16 2013, 03:40 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 10-April 12 From: Spain/Houston Member No.: 14,357 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Nov 16 2013, 04:55 AM) They got some of my money a long time ago. I did manage to get a big box of parts out of them. Roy put on a good show and Lee seemed to know an awful lot about /6 engines. I always believed they had the skills and connections to build a quality engine, but choose to turn over high volumes with worn parts. Seemed like a pyramid plan where they used the "best" parts from incoming engine to fill the order of the customer who complained the most. I am susrprised that during all of these years, Roy n Co where not beat up, shot etc. There buisness practises, if you can call them that, where gangster style. I was able to save 3 complete cars, with their rebuilt engines. I am now just finishing on of the last MotorMeister nightmare. I hope he gets sent to jail, and all of the Porsche cars etc... sold to repay all of the damage and suits he should have. My guess is this wont happen, but, at least worls wide people will know what a scum bag he is. |
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| oldschool |
Nov 16 2013, 10:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
Stop by this morning, a bunch of Porsche in 2 lots..
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| Blue6 |
Nov 22 2013, 10:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,035 Joined: 3-October 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,470 Region Association: Southern California
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Was in Downey yesterday, and stopped by Motor Meiser to see for myself. Office was closed down with a posted sign to contact Lisa at a e-mail address to make an appointment to pick up your stuff. There was an attorney there , and two customers with legal papers picking up their parts. After serving papers, employees would go inside and try to find a match. Wasn't going good and no one was happy. The place is still filled with cars, engines, trannys, etc.
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| Pat Garvey |
Nov 22 2013, 05:41 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Wow!
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| e_artiles |
Nov 30 2013, 02:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 14-February 12 From: Corona, CA Member No.: 14,131 Region Association: Southern California |
It's a good thing this happened now...I was going to get an engine from them! Is there any other source in the southern California area for rebuilt six engines?
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| carr914 |
Nov 30 2013, 03:26 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,695 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States  |
QUOTE(e_artiles @ Nov 30 2013, 03:03 PM) It's a good thing this happened now...I was going to get an engine from them! Is there any other source in the southern California area for rebuilt six engines? Not trying to rag on you, but why were you going to get an Engine from MotorShiester? Did you not do any research? |
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| Cairo94507 |
Nov 30 2013, 05:39 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,770 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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Let's hope these douche bags go to jail at some point after they lose every cent and thing they have.
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| h2obroker |
Dec 2 2013, 06:46 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 2-December 13 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 16,710 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm suppose to pick up my car on Wednesday(Dec 6th) and I'm so scared that I will not get all the parts. Is there ANYBODY in the Downey area that could possibly help me or give me any recommendations because I'm only a driver and know virtually nothing when it comes to the engine or if any of the parts are missing. Please feel free to email me or contact me at 805-210-1088 call/text--------- PLEASE HELP!!!!
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| r_towle |
Dec 2 2013, 09:08 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,576 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(h2obroker @ Dec 2 2013, 07:46 PM) I'm suppose to pick up my car on Wednesday(Dec 6th) and I'm so scared that I will not get all the parts. Is there ANYBODY in the Downey area that could possibly help me or give me any recommendations because I'm only a driver and know virtually nothing when it comes to the engine or if any of the parts are missing. Please feel free to email me or contact me at 805-210-1088 call/text--------- PLEASE HELP!!!! Who are you, and what type of car are you picking up? Year make and model. Be open and honest so people trust you, and you WILL get help...either here or on pelicanparts site. Lots of smart people that love these cars, but no one wants to walk into a messy situation. First see if you can find an expert in your type of car, than consider hiring a professional mechanic to come with you, your lawyer, and the sherriff. |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 2 2013, 10:23 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,649 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(h2obroker @ Dec 2 2013, 04:46 PM) I'm suppose to pick up my car on Wednesday(Dec 6th) That either be Wednesday the 4th or Friday the 6th ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| h2obroker |
Dec 2 2013, 11:55 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 2-December 13 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 16,710 Region Association: Southern California |
Sorry Guys. I'm just a bit stressed as I just found out about the whole Motor Meister fiasco today and they have had my car for a couple months now. So here's my story.
I made a very poor decision in purchasing a car off of eBay and even though I was going to fly out to Florida to pick it up I later decided to just use a transport and not drive cross country by my self. So I wired the funds for a "daily driver", "needs nothing" 1978 911 Slant nose. It arrived on the transport DOA. It took the transport driver over 2 hours to get the car off the truck because it wouldn't start. It was far from the description on the ebay ad and I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND how stupid I was to buy a car like this without a pre-purchase inspection. I've had nearly 60 cars so I really do know better. I fought with the seller, with ebay, and spoke to a lawyer. The bottom line was that I had a car that needed help and the seller lied about the condition. The attorney, which I've known for years now told me he could get a judgement but that would unlikely get any money back since the seller was likely a deadbeat and could care less about the judgement. He also told me to use that money toward the costly repairs that I was looking at. The car went to a shop in the Valley that was well known and respected for knowing Porsche cars. I received an estimate for $12K for repairs that would require a complete engine breakdown. I really didn't have that kind of money since I just purchased the car and decided to wait. Then somebody told me about Motor Meister and that their prices were lower but that "they knew their stuff". So basically I jumped out of the pot into the fire. I called MM and they offered to pick up the car for me they gave me this wonderful sales pitch. Then they gave me a much more favorable estimate before telling me it would take "about six months." I was shocked at the time it was going to take but didn't think I had much of a choice since they had my car, had removed and disassembled my engine and I was going to save quite a bit of money. I have been calling them every week or so and even stopped by to check on the car several times in hope that I could get them to get things done sooner. Today I called and spoke with one of the secretaries to once again offer bribes (I jokingly ask if they want flowers or chocolates) to the two girls at the front desk to get my car higher in the que and ask the progress when I was told that they were in the process of bankruptcy and that I would have to email to schedule a time to pick up my car. She refused to actually discuss the pick-up and said I had to email the other girl "lisa". I have since done that and after about 8 emails today, I'm to pick up the car at 2pm on Wednesday the 4th -- Not the 6th as I posted above, I accidentally looked at November. My first car was a one owner 914 that I got in 1987 and since then I've had 4 of them along with a 1973 911T, a 928 and a Boxster S. I found your forum today after reading post after post on how terrible MM is. Oh how I wish I would have found those posts before they got hold of my car. My name is Matthew and please feel free to ask anything else that I might have missed. I would appreciate any help possible. |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 2 2013, 11:59 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,649 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(h2obroker @ Dec 2 2013, 09:55 PM) My name is Matthew and please feel free to ask anything else that I might have missed. I would appreciate any help possible. We have a few guys down in your area, maybe someone can jump in here and help ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) PS: Might be best to start a new thread in the garage asking for help. |
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| scotty b |
Dec 3 2013, 09:27 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(h2obroker @ Dec 2 2013, 09:55 PM) Sorry Guys. I'm just a bit stressed as I just found out about the whole Motor Meister fiasco today and they have had my car for a couple months now. So here's my story. I made a very poor decision in purchasing a car off of eBay and even though I was going to fly out to Florida to pick it up I later decided to just use a transport and not drive cross country by my self. So I wired the funds for a "daily driver", "needs nothing" 1978 911 Slant nose. It arrived on the transport DOA. It took the transport driver over 2 hours to get the car off the truck because it wouldn't start. It was far from the description on the ebay ad and I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND how stupid I was to buy a car like this without a pre-purchase inspection. I've had nearly 60 cars so I really do know better. I fought with the seller, with ebay, and spoke to a lawyer. The bottom line was that I had a car that needed help and the seller lied about the condition. The attorney, which I've known for years now told me he could get a judgement but that would unlikely get any money back since the seller was likely a deadbeat and could care less about the judgement. He also told me to use that money toward the costly repairs that I was looking at. The car went to a shop in the Valley that was well known and respected for knowing Porsche cars. I received an estimate for $12K for repairs that would require a complete engine breakdown. I really didn't have that kind of money since I just purchased the car and decided to wait. Then somebody told me about Motor Meister and that their prices were lower but that "they knew their stuff". So basically I jumped out of the pot into the fire. I called MM and they offered to pick up the car for me they gave me this wonderful sales pitch. Then they gave me a much more favorable estimate before telling me it would take "about six months." I was shocked at the time it was going to take but didn't think I had much of a choice since they had my car, had removed and disassembled my engine and I was going to save quite a bit of money. I have been calling them every week or so and even stopped by to check on the car several times in hope that I could get them to get things done sooner. Today I called and spoke with one of the secretaries to once again offer bribes (I jokingly ask if they want flowers or chocolates) to the two girls at the front desk to get my car higher in the que and ask the progress when I was told that they were in the process of bankruptcy and that I would have to email to schedule a time to pick up my car. She refused to actually discuss the pick-up and said I had to email the other girl "lisa". I have since done that and after about 8 emails today, I'm to pick up the car at 2pm on Wednesday the 4th -- Not the 6th as I posted above, I accidentally looked at November. My first car was a one owner 914 that I got in 1987 and since then I've had 4 of them along with a 1973 911T, a 928 and a Boxster S. I found your forum today after reading post after post on how terrible MM is. Oh how I wish I would have found those posts before they got hold of my car. My name is Matthew and please feel free to ask anything else that I might have missed. I would appreciate any help possible. Read through this thread http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...gine!/page5 It seems a number of people are retrieving their property. Very good news for those guys. Mario Salis with the division that handles complaints for these types of issues is working through the complaints. He also has found paperwork referencing mechanic liens that were filed by MM. It is my understanding that a number of these liens were not filed correctly and were a ploy to falsely acquire the rights to property at the shop to sell. The great news here is that if you had called MM in the past and they didn't admit to having your property (like in my case) Mario may find paperwork proving different. He found an incorrectly filed lien on the motor and transmission that I am trying to track down. The same M & T that Jerry Marks said he never had since I couldn't provide paperwork. Also, he found files with the "E" number that some of you may need. So if you need that number to claim your property, he may have it which will make it easy for you to gather your goods. If you have items there and are trying to get your hands on them you need to file a complaint in order for Mario to research your situation. To do so, click on this link and file a complaint against an auto repair center. You will be able to reference MM in the complaint. By doing this, Mario can talk with you in detail and help. http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...omplaints.html Additionally, if you find that your property has been sold illegally, then i would recommend calling Lee Ackerman. His info is above in the thread. I may have to do this if we find that the parts were sold. Good luck! |
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| h2obroker |
Dec 3 2013, 11:16 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 2-December 13 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 16,710 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks for the info. I fear that I'm going to go down there and get half my car back. Wish me luck!!
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| h2obroker |
Dec 3 2013, 06:34 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 2-December 13 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 16,710 Region Association: Southern California |
So I went to MM today and tried to figure out how I'm going to get my car and the engines parts. My appointment for pick up isn't until tomorrow but wanted to get an idea of the mess that I had before me. I spoke to a couple that owns another Porsche shop across from MM and they were very helpful in pointing me in the right direction if I needed help recovering my car. They are completely full in their shop so it wasn't that they were doing it to get my business. They told stories of all the guys that are flying in from all over the country to recover their cars / engines. They also gave me the the detective on the case at the Downey Police department. Apparently he has been very helpful to owners trying to get their stuff back.
Here's some of the numbers given to me today - some I think are repeats on this forum Bureau of Automotive Repair 1-800-952-5210 dial "0" and ask for Marvin or go to www.autorepair.ca.gov and click the button to file a complaint. Those affected really need to file a complaint to help those that are not successful in recovering their cars. Detective Roberts - Downey Police Department - 562-904-2334 |
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