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| scotty b |
 Nov 14 2013, 12:28 PM
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rust free you say ?  Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None  |
It would appear that they are in some serious trouble with the federales.....finally (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Say bye bye (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...meister-50.html http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...r-car-or-engine! http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/pts/4186159974.html Reply vgkfs-4186159974@sale.craigslist.org [?] flag [?] : miscategorized prohibited spam best of Posted: 2013-11-11, 5:27PM PST cheap porsche parts in LA County - $1 (LA COUNTY) If you are looking for porsche parts , buyer BEWARE!!!!! MOTOR MEISTER in Downey Ca has been selling their customers cars including those in fr storage or repair and parting them out. He is about to file bankruptcy, has a potential buyer for the shop and if you have a vehicle here, he has likely lien saled it by sending notification to a purposefully incorrect address. He has over 200 stolen motors that he is lien saleing as well, he is not answering phones and is hiding vehicles in storage places in and around the Downey area. I do not own a Porsche and am not a disgruntled customer, I have worked for small businesses most of my life and seeing what I saw since Friday makes me sick to my stomach. Please retain attorneys and PRESS CRIMINAL CHARGES, this guy thinks he is above the law. I have a list of 12 vehicles that had been moved to storage in an attempt to hide them, when the storage place found out they refused to release the cars back to motor meister, these 12 lucky people will get their cars back, the rest of you can thank Lee Marks the owner, his wife who is currently driving a beautiful Mercedes Benz, his son Jerry Marks and the not very bright office manager Lisa who has handled the lien sale paperwork for all of the missing vehicles I Hope you all find them or receive legal compensation. Location: LA COUNTY it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Posting ID: 4186159974 Posted: 2013-11-11, 5:27PM PST Updated: 2013-11-11, 5:33PM PST email to a friend Avoid scams, deal locally! Do NOT wire funds (Western Union, Moneygram). |
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| Mark Henry |
Dec 3 2013, 09:17 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Good to see them going down.... but what a FUBAR cluster fuch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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| Woody |
Dec 3 2013, 09:42 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Dec 3 2013, 09:17 PM)  Good to see them going down.... but what a FUBAR cluster fuch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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| carr914 |
Dec 4 2013, 05:29 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,695 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States  |
What took so long?
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| Mark Henry |
Dec 4 2013, 07:46 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The 2.7 (spare engine core) I picked up has a red fan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
The guides and valves are beyond worn out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ....but it has a std/std crank....so maybe I'm OK (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| h2obroker |
Dec 5 2013, 09:30 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 2-December 13 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 16,710 Region Association: Southern California |
I was able to retrieve my car and most of my engine. I met some other guys there that we're not no fortunate. I was able to meet and talk with Detective Roberts and he has really laid down the law about them handing over the parts when the owners get there. To anyone that might still have their car or engine there - Go ASAP to get it. They now have an eviction noticed posted from the building owner and the detective agreed that it's only going to get worse. I'm heading back today to get a few things they promised they would find.
On a bizarre brighter note: One guy arrived to get his car and he was so mad and frustrated. He was on his phone yelling at somebody on the other end to get a transport there ASAP to get his car. Then one of the employees of MM said "Why are you calling for a transport? This car is done". We all looked at each other quite surprised. They jump started the car and he drove off. Who knows how long the car sat there already finished, but he was by far one of the lucky ones. |
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| worn |
Dec 5 2013, 09:39 AM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,156 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest 
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Is it still full of stuff, or are the cars end engines trickling away to leave it a bit empty? |
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| h2obroker |
Dec 5 2013, 10:58 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 2-December 13 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 16,710 Region Association: Southern California |
One of the employees said they still have 100 cars in three lots
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| SirAndy |
Dec 5 2013, 12:33 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,649 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(h2obroker @ Dec 5 2013, 08:58 AM) One of the employees said they still have 100 cars in three lots (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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| GeorgeRud |
Dec 5 2013, 12:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
These guys look to be the Bernie Madoffs of Porsche repair! Glad that the law is finally catching up to them.
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| aircooledtechguy |
Dec 5 2013, 03:35 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Un-be-freakin'-leavable!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
This takes the term, "stealing from Peter to pay Paul" to a whole new level. How long have these guys been getting away with this scam anyway?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| r_towle |
Dec 5 2013, 05:42 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,576 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 5 2013, 01:33 PM) QUOTE(h2obroker @ Dec 5 2013, 08:58 AM) One of the employees said they still have 100 cars in three lots (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Still at over 100 cars really amazes me. It takes 5 seconds to search on google under the motor meister name and you get nothing good for feedback, it's all bad. Threads all over the place, yet stupid people still don't bother to do a small amount of homework before bringing a 20k car to these guys? I feel bad for the people that got screwed, but it's not like there was not enough information and BEWARE signals all over the internet. 100 cars, or people that must not be online in any way....really a shame. I hope everyone gets their possessions back and the rest gets sold of by the courts to put this to bed. My big concern would be that the culprits get charged and either serve time, or are not allowed to setup shop again. Rich |
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| scotty b |
Dec 5 2013, 06:54 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
I'm kind of surprised that with all the years they have been doing this they haven't had a customer of "questionable ethics " (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) that would make certain to " sort things out " in the middle of the desert (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)
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| SirAndy |
Dec 5 2013, 08:57 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,649 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(scotty b @ Dec 5 2013, 04:54 PM) I'm kind of surprised that with all the years they have been doing this they haven't had a customer of "questionable ethics " (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) that would make certain to " sort things out " in the middle of the desert (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) Maybe they were both working for the same "boss"? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| Dr Evil |
Dec 5 2013, 11:52 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,000 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Is AA next? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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| DBCooper |
Dec 6 2013, 08:09 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
Ha ha ha, I was just wondering when AA's most vigorous defenders in past threads were going to jump in here to take up MM's side. AA's not quite so egregious, but seem to have learned the rules in the same playground.
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| naro914 |
Dec 6 2013, 10:11 AM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
unfortunately, this practice (borrow from peter to pay paul) is not uncommon in the mechanic world.... Most of these guys are good mechanics, but not good business people and have no idea how to manage cashflow, so they take the deposits that someone gives them to pay for the parts for someone elses car. Starts out innocent enough until years go by and they are SOOOOO far behind. I can think of one shop (VERY local to me) that is headed for the same fate if someone gets pissed enough to do/say something about it. We all keep asking ourselves what is taking so long???
Honestly, this is why I work with the shop I do (literally...I do business consulting work to help small businesses and help him keep his finances in order). Too many small businesses have no idea how to run the BUSINESS side of the companies.... Not saying that's what went wrong with MM, just saying it's more common than you would think... or hope... |
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| aircooledtechguy |
Dec 7 2013, 11:36 AM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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It is a very common practice and an easy trap for shop owners to un-intentionally fall into. Couple that with a nefarious owner and you get MM. I have a high-end hotrod shop across the street who works off deposits and they are constantly in this cycle. For them, the loudest car owner gets the work done. |
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| carr914 |
Dec 7 2013, 11:45 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,695 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(naro914 @ Dec 6 2013, 11:11 AM) unfortunately, this practice (borrow from peter to pay paul) is not uncommon in the mechanic world.... Most of these guys are good mechanics, but not good business people and have no idea how to manage cashflow, so they take the deposits that someone gives them to pay for the parts for someone elses car. Starts out innocent enough until years go by and they are SOOOOO far behind. I can think of one shop (VERY local to me) that is headed for the same fate if someone gets pissed enough to do/say something about it. We all keep asking ourselves what is taking so long??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) This happens more than you think. Since I sell Camaro Suspension systems, I'm intune to the Pro-Touring Forums and there was a Shop called Prodigy Customs that ripped people off to the tune of close to a $1Mil. At one point they had the Reputation of being the Best (unlike MM), but got into a Ponzi like deal, getting money from one client to try to finish another car. |
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| oldschool |
Dec 7 2013, 02:00 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hey I'm shooting aerial video behind them....I may pan over the place and get a birds eye view (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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| hot_shoe914 |
Dec 12 2013, 09:24 PM
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on ramp passer Group: Members Posts: 3,802 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Earle, Ar. Member No.: 8,354 Region Association: None |
Okay, I have a very good friend that I have known for awhile that he has had a car sitting in California. I found out tonight that it is at Motor Meister. He knew they had filed bankruptcy but had no clue of the mess going on. He is going to make calls tomorrow and try to find out more. If anyone here has some information that may help him, or if somebody would be willing to assist in the recovery over his car and parts, he is willing to pay and would greatly appreciate it. He is the kind of guy that will go out of his way to help anyone so, please, if you can or are willing to help, it is much better than him trying from 2500 miles away. Feel free to message me or call me at 901-484-6977.
Thanks, Shoe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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