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> Another 914 goes under the knife, UPDATE: IT'S ALIVE....FINALLY
rick 918-S
post Jan 29 2014, 03:09 PM
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While you have the floor off, could you please take a picture of the bottom of the long, drivers side, right under the seat belt nut?
And then with the floor board in place??

I need to fix it, just like to see the assembly


I'll see what I can do Rich.
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post Jan 29 2014, 03:14 PM
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I started welding in the floor pan on the passenger side. I drilled through the bottom of the long and plug welded the pan from the top side. Then I used my spot welder and spot welded the pan also. It looks stock with spot welds not big mig rosettes.

I left the long clam shell off until I have completed all the pan welds. I was able to use my pinch spotter that way.

Made up a new bracket of the heater tube.


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post Jan 30 2014, 05:29 PM
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Welding in the right side floor pan.

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post Jan 31 2014, 03:28 PM
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Here are a couple photos of the sill supports. They actually curve on the bottom edge. I reshaped them to match the factory parts.

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post Jan 31 2014, 07:29 PM
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Couple more photos. I installed the sill brackets onto the outer long with my spot welder. and test fit it onto the car.

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post Feb 1 2014, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Jan 31 2014, 05:29 PM) *

Couple more photos. I installed the sill brackets onto the outer long with my spot welder. and test fit it onto the car.



Looking great, Rick!
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post Feb 1 2014, 11:23 PM
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I will be closing up the right side long tomorrow and installing the right Jack post. I have a few more details to finish on the right side rear floor pan but it's close.

I still have lots to do but some stuff will move fairly quickly like the Battery stand and tray and the right side engine shelf.

I have the right front floor to repair, clean the surface rust on the left floor pan and repair the left jack post. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif)


I have 18 GA. chassis stiffeners built into the inner structure where you don't see it. The chassis will look stock with spot welds but I have mig and tig welds hidden throughout the repair. This takes considerably longer to do but the end result will be worth it.
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post Feb 2 2014, 12:16 AM
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Nice work! You sure are getting your money's worth out of that spot welder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 2 2014, 09:11 AM
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Nice work! You sure are getting your money's worth out of that spot welder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I fried two Harbor Freight 240 volt pinch spotters in the last two weeks. I had one for several years but sparks flew out of the front and it stopped working. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I purchased a new one and killed it in a week. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) They have a 90 day warrantee so I just went up and exchanged it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It must have been defective because I had only used it for about a dozen spot welds when it failed.
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post Feb 2 2014, 09:26 AM
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Quickly....

The floor pan welds over (under really) the inner long?
So it's just laying on the inner long in that area where you show a picture above?

I know I have done this before, but I cannot see it ......
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post Feb 2 2014, 10:02 AM
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Quickly....

The floor pan welds over (under really) the inner long?
So it's just laying on the inner long in that area where you show a picture above?

I know I have done this before, but I cannot see it ......


Yes Rich, The factory inner long actually has a slight recess pressed into the bottom. The Restoration design part does not. It also does not have the stamping recesses for the muffler clamps or the oval shaped cut outs. I only used the Restoration Design part as a starting place.

Because of the condition of this car (not as rusty as most) I determined what I needed to actually repair.

I cut the rust damaged inner long section out, I fit a section of the R.D. part then used my bead roller to add the recess to the R.D. part. When you look at the area where the pan spots to the long the repair I made now looks like the factory section I left in place.

Once I had the section where the seat belt bolt is welded in I used the balance of the R.D. part as a reinforcement and plug welded it to the inside of the long.

Here's what I worked on yesterday. This is a reinforcement panel and a outer rail closing panel I hand formed.

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The R.D panel for the outer rail that welds in behind the jack post cover and it kicks up behind the quarter panel is huge. I did not need to replace that much of the outer long and did not see the point in purchasing a $ 300.00 plus part to cut off 8"

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Here is the inner reinforcement mocked up in place. This part is slipped in behind the rail at the kick up and ends at the edge of the R.D. clam shell edge. This gives the 8" outer repair panel I made a backer behind the butt weld and adds a second layer of strength behind the jack point.

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I have to repeat this on the left side. R.D does not make left side repair panels past the clamshell.

BTW: I don't have a sheet metal brake. All my panels are hand formed using my vise and what ever I can figure out.
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post Feb 3 2014, 10:04 PM
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Finally closing up the right long. I sleeve all the butt seams. For the forward seam I installed the sleeve and plug welded it to the forward rail section. Everything is cleaned and sprayed with cold galvanizing.

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The rear side sleeve is plug welded to the long first then slipped inside the rail as it's installed.

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Notice the sleeve extends under the hell hole repair and is plug welded to the long.

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I welded the jack post to the long before installing the outer section.

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The jack post cover was plug welded first. All the welds were ground flush then spot welded to look stock.

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The seam and plug welds are ground flush. the rail has a stock appearance.

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post Feb 3 2014, 10:52 PM
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Nice work, Rick! I hope you're still making that how to video...
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post Feb 3 2014, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Feb 3 2014, 10:52 PM) *

Nice work, Rick! I hope you're still making that how to video...



Started out with my son but he's been unavailable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Feb 3 2014, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Feb 4 2014, 12:02 AM) *

QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Feb 3 2014, 10:52 PM) *

Nice work, Rick! I hope you're still making that how to video...



Started out with my son but he's been unavailable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

He just does not want to go out in 50 degree below zero weather to film anything... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)
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post Feb 3 2014, 11:15 PM
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That's a nice car ............ Wow.
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post Feb 3 2014, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Feb 3 2014, 11:06 PM) *

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Feb 4 2014, 12:02 AM) *

QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Feb 3 2014, 10:52 PM) *

Nice work, Rick! I hope you're still making that how to video...



Started out with my son but he's been unavailable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

He just does not want to go out in 50 degree below zero weather to film anything... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)


At least were not chopping wood (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Feb 3 2014, 11:16 PM
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No we....just me.
Boy went missing again...seems to happen each time lately...
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post Feb 3 2014, 11:21 PM
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Impressive metal work !!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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post Feb 4 2014, 05:34 AM
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There is a new inner long for the right and left being made in Germany that appears to have more of the factory details formed into it.
maybe even OG dies ? HESS , is a VW parts supplier


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