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> Subaru swap stories?, where's fiid?
lapuwali
post Jan 3 2005, 01:53 PM
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I know Fiid was doing one of these, anyone else in progress or complete?

After doing the contortionist trick of adjusting valves with the exhausts in place a couple of times, I'm in the middle of pulling the HEs off my 1.7 to replace a pair of exhaust studs, and reminding myself how much easier the job would be if the exhausts were off, but thanks to the stock heater system how big a hassle that is. I hate exhaust studs pulling out (No. 3 cylinder, as usual). And all this trouble for only 80hp. 140hp or so from a water-cooled engine with hydraulic lifters (or 20K mile valve adjustment intervals) is starting to sound pretty good right now. If it were any easier to run water lines, I'd be all over this already.
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post Jan 3 2005, 02:00 PM
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I think Fiid and Susan are expecting... so that may be why he's not here as much as before.

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post Jan 3 2005, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (Jenny @ Jan 3 2005, 12:00 PM)
I think Fiid and Susan are expecting... so that may be why he's not here as much as before.

Jen

Pah! Letting a baby get in the way of a car! Priorities all screwed up...

That certainly does explain his absence.
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post Jan 3 2005, 02:25 PM
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sorry to hi-jack, but Jenny there has some mysterious looking eyes.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) spooky (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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post Jan 3 2005, 03:32 PM
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Spooky... that's a first. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif)

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post Jan 3 2005, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (Jenny @ Jan 3 2005, 01:32 PM)
Spooky... that's a first. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif)

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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) Spooky?? awww shucks---hubba-hubba!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Jan 4 2005, 04:52 PM
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post Jan 4 2005, 08:09 PM
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so who has done the subaru swap thing? anyone here?
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post Jan 4 2005, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE (butch @ Jan 4 2005, 06:09 PM)
so who has done the subaru swap thing? anyone here?

Everybody who's started one has dissapeared after a while. THAT's what's spooky.

-Ben M.
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post Jan 5 2005, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE (airsix @ Jan 4 2005, 08:59 PM)
QUOTE (butch @ Jan 4 2005, 06:09 PM)
so who has done the subaru swap thing?  anyone here?

Everybody who's started one has dissapeared after a while. THAT's what's spooky.

-Ben M.

i am still here and my car is untouched in 3 weeks and before that 18 months.

story suby 2.5, trying to stay stock ing and spark, kep plate and fly wheel, will be modified stock exhaust, radator in front of motor ( yes it should work plenty of room )

were i am at now motor bolted to tranny sitting on jack in engine bay, harness 75 % complete, will need rad, need welder to finish engine bar body mounts, then to make engine bar. going unconventinal with engine bar behind motor so it will clear shifter and exhaust, and not be canterlevered from stock mount. if i had 500 to throw at her i could get it going in 80 hours or less
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post Jan 5 2005, 12:36 AM
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Scott, are you using the turbo'd wrx engine?
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post Jan 5 2005, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE (scott thacher @ Jan 4 2005, 10:14 PM)
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QUOTE (butch @ Jan 4 2005, 06:09 PM)
so who has done the subaru swap thing?  anyone here?

Everybody who's started one has dissapeared after a while. THAT's what's spooky.

-Ben M.

i am still here and my car is untouched in 3 weeks and before that 18 months.

story suby 2.5, trying to stay stock ing and spark, kep plate and fly wheel, will be modified stock exhaust, radator in front of motor ( yes it should work plenty of room )

were i am at now motor bolted to tranny sitting on jack in engine bay, harness 75 % complete, will need rad, need welder to finish engine bar body mounts, then to make engine bar. going unconventinal with engine bar behind motor so it will clear shifter and exhaust, and not be canterlevered from stock mount. if i had 500 to throw at her i could get it going in 80 hours or less

The engine mount is one of the more interesting bits for me. The Soob mounts appear to be near the bellhousing stock, or a bit forward of that. Are you running the arms angled forward to the stock 914 mounting points? Sort of a vee arrangement?

I was impressed with one of Fiid's pictures showing how much room there was between the crank pully and the firewall. I wonder how well it will cool there. Perhaps some clever ducting pulling air from below?
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post Jan 5 2005, 10:10 AM
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nope no turbo dont need that much power, or dont want to abuse my tranny that much

and for motor mounts i have built what look like smaller version of the stock body mount that i will be welding to the frame ( long ) right behind the suspension ear and it will drop down then with a couple of bends will basiclt form a loop that the motor hangs on

here is an idea of what it will look like, and luckly its simple all bends are 30 degrees. i made each staight section a different color sense i could not draw a straight lines. the bottom section that is level then it bends up at 30 degrees to be parallel with the motor mounts, then another 30 degree bend to get over to the body, then another bend to be parallel with the body

hope this is not too confusing
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post Jan 5 2005, 10:21 AM
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here is what the body mount looks like un welded, its made out of 1/8 inch steel folded then it will be welded

now i dont like the idea of hanging a mount about 14 inches backwards from the stock location that is a lot of leverage for a 250 lb motor to bend stuff with, like the stock body mount


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post Jan 6 2005, 07:29 PM
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I'm alive - Susan popped the baby out Dec 30th - but haven't doen any work on the car in ages. Last thing I did was fab radiator mounts, and running water lines. I am starting to think about getting a little more work done on it though......

Baby pics are here if you are interested:
http://www.fiid.net/modules/gallery/BendyIsBorn
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post Jan 6 2005, 07:39 PM
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how about running a redawg "like" sub frame from the original motor mounts to the tranny mounts and then have motor mounts to the suby welded to the subframe.
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post Jan 6 2005, 08:09 PM
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Anyone have any photos of the front of the Soob engine? Are there no mounting bosses there that could be adapted for use by a front-mount bar?

Eric Tischer's old site shows his mount, which appears to connect to a set of four bosses roughly one at the base of each cylinder, two on each side of the pan. These are connected via triangular plates forward to a front bar. I have no idea if these bosses are present on other engines. The one on the site is a 1.8 with a turbo.
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post Jan 6 2005, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (fiid @ Jan 6 2005, 05:29 PM)
Baby pics are here if you are interested:
http://www.fiid.net/modules/gallery/BendyIsBorn

Sorry to hijack--

Fiid, Bendy is beautiful. A big congratulations to you and Susan!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)

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post Jan 6 2005, 08:36 PM
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Thanks Jenny - thanks for the card too, btw.

There are places to bolt on the bottom of the engine. Tischer's setup is a tailshifter, so he has his rubber mounts at the end of the motor bar.

If you are doing something with a sideshifter and you want to keep the stock subary mounts you need to work out some form of framing because the mounts are too far back - they get leverage on the stock mount points and would do the same on the bulkhead.

I welded a bar between the shock towers and used that to hold the weight of the engine while going out to the stock mount bar points for lateral strength.

Fiid.
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