2.4L supercharged,electromotive FI, worth? Options

[DougC]

Found an engine listed as 2.4L with a Paxton supercharged Porsche engine and electromotive programmable FI and ignition. Low miles, excellent condition. I'll try to talk to the owner this evening, but I know nothing else about the engine. I assume it's a 6, right..what else is obvious and should be asked? What kind of money might this set up be worth? Would it be a good engine for a 6 conversion using stock tranny?

Doug C

[Root_Werks]

I know they make the supercharger kits for 911 engines. I would think this to be a six and yeah, a 901 should hand the hp okay as long as you don't slam 1st. Wonder what hp it puts out? Sounds pretty dang cool to me! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[jd74914]

Learn something everyday. I didn't know that paxton makes kits for 6 cylinders. My friends uncle has a paxton kit on on his stang, with it he can smoke his tires at 60mph, of course he has some other engine mods (car has been dynoed @ 580hp)

Check out the engine. It sounds wicked cool (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

[Ferg]

Yeah, sounds cool, I would also like to know what you have found out, but FYI I have seen this kit on a 911 and I think clearance is going to be a huge issure for a 914. He had a turbo tail, and it still needed modifying.
Ferg.

[jd74914]

Any car can be seriously modified (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

look at this car supercharged v8

Out of curiousity, is that guy a member here? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

[DougC]

The clearance issue because of the supercharger? Wonder what the resale value of this paxton would be if I decided to forgo it and keep the electromotive FI and ignition on the 2.4L. Is this older, smaller engine even worth while for a conversion (assuming stock rebuild or in excellent condition)? Guess that mostly depends what kind of money the guy wants, so what price range would make it a viable consideration?

Doug C

[Mueller]

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I didn't know that paxton makes kits for 6 cylinders

I'm betting that Paxton didn't make a kit, you can buy just the supercharger and install it on anything you want (like a lawn mower if you got really thick grass (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) )

Doug,

I'd have to guess that it's worth in the $3K to $5K range depending on the condition of the motor....figure $800 to $1000 for the supercharger, $500 to $1500 for the electromotive (really depends on how old and what model)...sounds neat, keep us updated (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)

[DougC]

You know, looking at this closer it's probably a 2.4L Type4, is that possible for a reliable engine? (read daily driver)


Doug C

[Root_Werks]

All depends on how/who built the engine. Got any pictures of it?

[nebreitling]

not going the V8 route?

if this is a Type-4, i'd be very dubious of it unless it was built by a reputable builder. unlikely to be very reliable otherwise.


sounds very interesting in any case.

[DougC]

No pictures of it yet, been waiting for them most of the day.. Will post Monday if I have some. Will be away from computer on Friday (b-day).
Nathan- I haven't completely decided one way or the other about which engine will end up in this car, just trying to way all my options - don't want to rush into anything. This thing is being offered at "best offer" or "make offer" can't remember. So I'm trying to figure out some numbers.

Doug C

[DougC]

OK, I got some pictures.. just wondering if this could ever be a depenable engine, even a 2.4L TypeIV without the supercharger? What do ya'll think?

Doug C

[DougC]

Another...

[DougC]

Last one..

[DougC]

I haven't talked to the owner but my first question was gonna be "Will the engine lid even come close to closing?"..

Doug C

[Reiche]

I doubt it has ever run. Look at the intake pipe between the supercharger and TB. Looks like it is folded in the middle.

Even if it runs, I say Pull the pin and throw! That engine will run HOT HOT HOT. It might give you a chance to max out a CHT (if you can actually keep the heads on.)

1. Looks like homemade "type 1" under-cylinder tins in pic #2. Unless you have a DTM, those will not cool better than the stock tins. HOT

2. It looks like they chopped off the front of the air plenum to the 1-2 side to make clearance for the drive belt. Reduced air flow=HOTT

3. 2.4 liter t4 means it most likely has 103mm cylinders. I see a little rust on them so not Nickies. HOTTT

4. Extra heat from the pressurized intake air. HOTTTT

That engine might be good for 1/4 mile passes, but for daily or track driving, no way.

[DougC]

Yeah, I kinda figured some of that as well. Being sold as "make offer" so I was thinking about removing the Paxton (reselling it) and running it like that. But I'm not really looking for an engine that will have a tendency to run hot.

Doug C

[Mueller]

offer him $500 for it....I'll give you a couple hundred for the supercharger (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

[Ferg]

Ohh I see... I was thinking it was a 911 motor when i made the comments about clearing the lid, that looks like it may fit.
Ferg.

[Bleyseng]

Guys have run the 103's cast iron for years. You will need to run a oil cooler with them plus they suffer from head leaks. Make good power thou.

$500 motor to me.

junk the supercharger