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> Lifter fund- Over budget!, Help a serious cause!
Jake Raby
post Jan 6 2005, 01:13 PM
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Okay guys....
Before we can go to another level with the lifter/cam testing its gonna take some contributions from some generous enthusiasts. We don't need any big contributions at all, even if I could get a dollar from everyone that we know needs these lifters from various forums that I visit it would probably be enough to finish up the testing and get the developments made. I know thousands of people are building or will be building these engines and they would all benefit from this testing and development. The one thing about the VW ? Porsche world that I have always been impressed with is our brotherhood and ability to help each other whether thats on the side of the road , despite the severity. Consider this as helping your brother off the side of the road before his engine dies!

I have spent 12,000 bucks of my own money (not including what the since July trying to get these issues resolved and thus far have seen some very odd trends as well as some barriers that we just can't get past without even more money needing to be spent on parts.

I originally thought that I would never be working on this for this long! We figured that no more than 3 months would be needed or no more than about 4-5 thousand bucks would be needed to get a solid answer.

We have even more tests planned and there is light at the end of the tunnel and finally we started seeing some positive results.

I never thought this would take this long or be this expensive. I don't have an unlimited budget and the cam/lifter manufacturers won't send us any more freebies (never got many in the first place).

I hate to give up at this point and I really refuse to, but its just hurting the wallet badly and taking away from other developments so much that I can't go further.

My goal is to create a cam and lifter arrangement that can be installed in any engine with the same integrity that was previously available with the Old Johnson lifters. In those days we could bolt any engine together with any spring tension, not even break the cam and lifters in any special way and get a guaranteed 100K+ miles from it. Even though we have worked through to the point where serious failures are not happening right away, we still are seeing too much wear and every time an engine is fired up the first time its like Russian Roulette!

Off the shelf, Web Cam and their lifters are still the best bet. Not perfect at this point but the best available.

I am not going to be happy until we get this resolved. Any help you can give us would be appreciated by the entire Type IV industry.

Our paypal address is info@massivetype4.com

(thats the corrected one I edited the addy)

I'll keep giving my time, but just can't keep spending money on cams and lifters.
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post Jan 6 2005, 01:42 PM
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You accept Paypal? I'm good for a buck.
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post Jan 6 2005, 01:44 PM
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Guess I should have read the whole post! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chair.gif)
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post Jan 6 2005, 02:14 PM
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Awww..man...I just know some numbnuts is going to bust Jake's balls about this...If you never plan to build a T4 then STFU.

If you DO plan to build a T4 then you need to help Jake...a buck or two won't kill ya!!!

20 bucks sent buddy!

Jake BTW I will know if this guy is going to buy a shroud by Monday...I'll call you then bud.
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post Jan 6 2005, 02:40 PM
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Sounds good!

I DARE someone to bust my balls about this! If you are gonna do it I highly suggest you email it to me because I will do everything I can to embarass you in front of the board!
Be the one! ( I am not kidding)

Seriously I would have never wanted to do this and would not if I had a huge company. We can only write so much off before the book keeper cuts us off, at which point its all being tossed away. That point was quite a while back.

I only can spare so much money for development and right now we are having to spend a bit of that on coating R&D, Our MassIVe Heads and of course the 914 version of the DTM.

All of those things my business will benefit greatly from but lifters can only be sold for so much and right now I'd have to sell about 20 thousand bucks worth to get my investment back out of them!

That would take years.

Any help is appreciated.
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post Jan 6 2005, 02:49 PM
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Jake - i'm in. keep up the great work!

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post Jan 6 2005, 02:53 PM
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Pony up here kids. It is the least we can do for the invaluable input we get from Jake. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif)

Paypal Sent Jake. I might never build one of your engines (I hope that's not true), but I truly value the knowledge you share with us here. Consider it a small token of appreciation. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)
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post Jan 6 2005, 02:54 PM
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$5 paypal'd to ya Jake. I am not even a type4 guy, but you do great work. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Jan 6 2005, 03:02 PM
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$$$ sent.
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post Jan 6 2005, 03:03 PM
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Jake, I'm paypaling $5 to ya. Can't afford one of your engines now but someday I will be able to.

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post Jan 6 2005, 03:08 PM
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You got $10.00 solid gold hoosier dollars coming your way from Indiana via paypal. I have a 3.2 6 cylinder but I want a Raby type IV for my next project,.... when ever that will be.

Hey Jake, why don't you make some sort of non-profit operation so I can write this off. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Jan 6 2005, 03:22 PM
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Jake,

No one else has mentioned this, but I tried paypaling you and the following was displayed:

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Pay To:
shrouds@aircooledtechnology.com 
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This recipient is not yet registered. PayPal will send an email to the recipient explaining how to open an account and receive your transaction.
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Have you not opened the account yet, is it a glitch, or should I send anyway?
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post Jan 6 2005, 03:30 PM
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my paypal status says unclaimed
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post Jan 6 2005, 03:31 PM
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Something is up with the paypal acct. We are working on it now!
Thanks!
If you sent us $$ already to that acct we have not gotten it due to the issue.
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Jake Raby
post Jan 6 2005, 03:39 PM
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Okay!

Got it fixed, I had the wrong damn account listed- That one was deleted a while back!

I'm a nut...

The new one is info@massivetype4.com

That will do it!
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post Jan 6 2005, 03:44 PM
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Change the account in the first post....
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post Jan 6 2005, 03:45 PM
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New address works fine!
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post Jan 6 2005, 03:46 PM
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ok - cancelled the other one and re-sent! good luck Jake,

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post Jan 6 2005, 03:54 PM
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post Jan 6 2005, 03:57 PM
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Jake, My paypal notice said it went thru with the shroud address.

"This email confirms that you sent $10.00 USD to
shrouds@aircooledtechnology.com."



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