 Lifter fund- Over budget!, Help a serious cause! |
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| rhodyguy |
 Jan 6 2005, 08:02 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out.  Group: Members Posts: 22,098 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch  |
what we have in cheepness, we make up for with heart.
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| soloracer |
Jan 6 2005, 08:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 793 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Calgary Member No.: 538 |
If I send him $50 in your name will you send me the PORSCHE reflector? I'll even pay for shipping..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif) |
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| URY914 |
Jan 6 2005, 08:33 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,106 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
"PORSCHE reflector" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) What? |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 6 2005, 08:50 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i guess we arent cheap bastards (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| aircooledboy |
Jan 6 2005, 08:55 PM
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Sweet Pea's 1st ride in daddy's "vroom -vroom" Group: Members Posts: 1,672 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Rockford, IL Member No.: 1,629 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/monkeydance.gif) No no, I'm still a cheap bastard. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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| Jake Raby |
Jan 6 2005, 09:24 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
But Cheap Bastards with a heart!!!
Actually the big contributor is a BUS enthusiast and I have built two engines for him... LOL Thanks guys, hopefully this will be enough to finish this testing up and get to the bottom of it all! |
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| soloracer |
Jan 6 2005, 10:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 793 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Calgary Member No.: 538 |
Sorry, mistaken Identity. I think it might be SirAndy that I'm looking for. So what do you say sir? $50 contribution for a PORSCHE rear reflector? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) |
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| dinomium |
Jan 6 2005, 10:19 PM
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Git on a chair son, all the good stuff is goin over yer head! Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,777 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Bremerton, WA Member No.: 74 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  |
Now if I could just pay for an engine kit a saw buck at a time...
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| IronHillRestorations |
Jan 6 2005, 10:45 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,732 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None 
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I don't think I'll build any type fours, so I guess I'm out of the loop.
A suggestion if I may? Instead of soliciting free donations, have you thought about pre-selling lifters? I mean if you are building a better part, won't there be a demand? Just my .02. If my other business wasn't struggling right now I'd probably be a investor. |
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| bernbomb914 |
Jan 7 2005, 12:08 AM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
I am paypaling you because I dont want to buy another set of ceramics. I hope the DTM is making progress
Bernie |
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| ablose58 |
Jan 7 2005, 12:33 AM
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rust never sleeps Group: Members Posts: 584 Joined: 6-December 03 From: port orchard,wa. Member No.: 1,422 |
Hi, Jake, the check will be in the mail tommorrow (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) best of luck on your R+D (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif) AL
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| Jake Raby |
Jan 7 2005, 12:45 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
This isn't a solicitation!
It was actually an idea given to me buy a customer that added extra money on his invoice just to help fund the lifter research- Thats what gave me the idea. In the past I have had guys randomly send me money to buy dyno fuel for cooling system testing... As for selling lifters beforehand: Thats bad Karma. I only sell something once its all proven! What happens if I can't get the lifter issue worked out??? A few guys may be out a few bucks but atleast I don't have to caugh up thousands of bucks for a product I can't deliver. Many times when a company does something like that they end up rushing through things half assed to get the orders filled... There is nothing worse than a part or engine that is pre-paid...... As soon as its paid for guys lose their patience and thats no fun when everything HAS to be time consuming to do it right with these engines. This way its simple.. If you want to help, help... If not don't worry about it. I just got through swapping lifters in the cam spintron and if I was charging someone for this they would be broke! To tell the truth- If it wasn't for ceramic lifters I would be totally out of business since there is nothing out there right now that will live as long as I advertise my engines to last except a ceramic..... And to think that we are really the only engine shop that is even using them....... I have heard of shops losing 50 engines in one year! Hell in 2004 we only built 36 engines! Lotta guys taking big risks everyday and don't even know it when they buy some mass produced engine from someone that don't give a damn.. |
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| swood |
Jan 7 2005, 12:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,839 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Strong Beach Member No.: 251 Region Association: None |
I've made my contribution to R&D already by buying ceramics. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| Mark Henry |
Jan 7 2005, 07:18 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I just noticed the paypal mix-up (wrong email)...how do I cancell the first donation on paypal...I can't see it??!!
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| aircooledboy |
Jan 7 2005, 09:11 AM
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Sweet Pea's 1st ride in daddy's "vroom -vroom" Group: Members Posts: 1,672 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Rockford, IL Member No.: 1,629 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
When I logged on to paypal, it took me right to a screen that showed the transfer was "unclaimed". If not, select the "my account" tab at the top, and it will take you to that screen. I clicked on that entry, and then selected the "cancel" box at the bottom. When I entered the new address, I got a new screen showing the old one cancelled, and new one as "completed". (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) |
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| Marlow |
Jan 7 2005, 09:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Manassas, VA Member No.: 1,027 |
I'm in for $10.
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| Jake Raby |
Jan 7 2005, 11:44 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks so much!!
We just broke 800 dollars in contributions! This is amazing! every dollar helps. |
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| cnavarro |
Jan 7 2005, 12:08 PM
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Cylinder Guru Group: Members Posts: 472 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Chicagoland! Member No.: 49 Region Association: None |
Hey Guys. Thanks for those who've donated and/or bought ceramics. There are two main issues- rotation and wear, although both are tied together, they have their separate issues. I've been working with Jake on this project, having lifters analyzed for material properties, heat treats, composition, etc, then determining whether heat treats were done properly, and if not, what should have been done differently. This is all without the help of lifter manufacturers! Another thing we're dealing with is rotation of lifters, and dialing in the proper rotation, to ensure long life. So far, we've tested every lifter available and are moving forward with testing various ways of resurfacing, case hardening, heat treating, nano-tech coatings, and other treatments. I'll be the first to cheer when we have an alternative to ceramics, since it's very hard to keep then in stock and have them delivered on schedule. Hopefully we're close to finding the light at the end of the tunnel! Thanks for your support!
Charles Navarro LN Engineering http://www.LNengineering.com Aircooled Precision Performance |
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| JFJ914 |
Jan 9 2005, 11:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 813 Joined: 13-June 03 From: Alpharetta, GA Member No.: 814 Region Association: South East States
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Hey Jake, just put a check "in the mail". Well actually it'll be in the mail tomorrow. Thanks for the testing and thanks for all the info you share. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
I'm not a cheap Bas***d, I'm just always broke! |
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| guywan914 |
Jan 9 2005, 04:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 221 Joined: 27-May 04 From: Columbia,CT Member No.: 2,112 |
Jake count me in for a donation. Keep up the good work and the all important info you feed all of us. Check will be in the mail tomorrow. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
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