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post Mar 1 2014, 09:09 AM
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Hello all - I want to first thank all who help provide this awesome friendly 914 resource! My name is Eric and I am located in the mountains near Asheville NC. I have been a VW fanatic since 1996 and have owned Bugs and Buses and Things and Ghias and Squarebacks. I have always wanted a 914 and finally got one! I found this 1975 through a VW friend in TN. It had been sitting in his barn since 2004. It appears to be a very complete car with a (very neglected) stock looking FI system intact. Unfortunately it has bad rust in the Hell Hole that the PO neglected to tell me about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) These cares are EXTREMELY rare in these parts so I really would like to bring this one back from the dead...

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Where to start??? I need a good battery for it so I can start to see what I have got myself into. What Sealed AGM batteries do you all use? Also what about the color - is it original? And those wheels - anyone know if they are OG?

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post Mar 1 2014, 09:15 AM
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post Mar 1 2014, 09:20 AM
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Original color, and the wheels, while not original, are period correct and look good in my opinion.

Rust is the biggest and scariest issue these cars have. What you can see is half of what you have. I'd look into whether your rust is structural and how to repair it before anything else.

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post Mar 1 2014, 09:22 AM
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First, Welcome to the world.

Sorry, I only looked at 1 pic. Too slow to load. Can't say for sure on the wheels.
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post Mar 1 2014, 09:27 AM
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The more informed will likely jump in soon...

As for batteries, I'm on my second Optima Red Top in 2.5 years and getting ready to trade this one in on warranty before it expires (3 yrs) as the battery tender can no longer keep it topped off even when disconnected from the car. There is a lot of negative press on newer Optimas...

As for rust, pull the rockers panels - you will also likely find rust in the longitudinal under the battery area. Also pull the sail panel vinyl, especially on the drivers side given the photo of rust along the bottom of the trim. The vinyl holds moisture in and commonly rusts there. Pull the carpets and check the floor if you haven't done so already.

You'll find an incredible amount of knowledge and support here, so just ask.
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post Mar 1 2014, 09:28 AM
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The color is an original color, on the drivers front door jam, hinge side, there is a color code that will tell you the original color. The rust on the passenger rocker is bad, probably more under it, lots of rust showing...much more hiding.

If you can weld and do body work you should be fine, lots of information and links to parts here.

Overall car seems in decent shape, interiors not bad....should be a fun project.

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post Mar 1 2014, 09:28 AM
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post Mar 1 2014, 09:36 AM
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post Mar 1 2014, 09:44 AM
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Well it looks similar to my car when I bought it and brought it home.

The wheels are Empi's or knockoffs, and are VW offset so your tire options will be limited as they ride too far out toward the fender and will most likely rub with 195' and definitely be a problem if you ever wanted to run 205's.

Thats the least of your problems however,

The passenger side rust through the outer rocker cover most likely is covering large scale rust issues in the longitudinal, hell hole, possibly engine mount pick ups, battery box is gone, most likely it has migrated to the bottom of the firewall, and under the seats, etc. Not to be a bummer. A lot of us fix this regularly ourselves, but it is a project no less.

Rust under the sail area will bring you heartache to fix, but again it can be done. The problem is that when you can see it, there is so much more underneath that will have to be dealt with.

Sitting outside all that time means there will no doubt be ingress by rodents etc. You will have to be patient and find all their nests, droppings, and messes, and it is important to clean those areas thoroughly because the fluids left behind are acidic and you guessed it, bring on more destruction.

The good news is the World will help you and you will meet new friends for life if you stick with it. It will be a fun and rewarding project.


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post Mar 1 2014, 09:48 AM
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post Mar 1 2014, 09:59 AM
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You have come to the right place...there is a wealth of knowledge here.

While there is something to be said for picking up a complete car, I agree with the others on your hell hole. You need to get in there with a wire wheel & a screwdriver so you know what you are looking at.

Pull those rocker panel covers off and have a good look.

I would get it running well before dropping the engine & tranny for the rust repair.

The good news is that it's all fixable and replacement panels are available for most of the problem areas.

Good luck and keep us posted.
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post Mar 1 2014, 11:15 AM
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Hi Eric, I live about 90 miles away in Clayton, Georgia. Drive it down when you get a chance and I will buy you a beer! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Another guy in town has a teener too!

Like Steve says, bring to Okteenerfest this September! Not far from Asheville. You will meet a lot of guys that shares your passion.

Welcome to the Madness!

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post Mar 1 2014, 11:21 AM
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post Mar 1 2014, 11:27 AM
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Congrats.. Like the color. Buying it is the cheapest part.
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post Mar 1 2014, 11:37 AM
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Welcome! I too live near Asheville... Mars Hill Area. I drive mine daily so if you ever see a glow-in-the dark 914, throw up a hand. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If you ever need a hand or anything let me know. I have tons of parts and have done lots of rust repair myself. Tojanhorsepower is also in Marion and mid-way through his rust repair.

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post Mar 1 2014, 12:02 PM
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post Mar 1 2014, 12:10 PM
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Sounds like you've got some help nearby, take advantage of it. If you don't know how to weld, learn. Looks like the car has some things going for it but needs structural attention. Good luck with the project, there's very few things more fun than a 914 and a good run of twisties. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 1 2014, 12:25 PM
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If this were my car, the first things I would do is clean everything.

Check tires for cracks; check the brakes for wear and operation.

Then check the electrical system by turning things on/off and see what works.

Clean out the gas tank and drain the fuel system; Check all fuel lines for cracks, wear, and dry rot.

Try to get it running.

Unless the rust in the body is so bad that the car might break in half, get it running first, then decide what to attack. If you attack all rust at once chances are you won't be driving it for a while. "A while" could be a couple of weeks to a couple of years or never.

Do you know about the big-butt test? Take the roof off and have a friend >200LB sit in the passenger seat. Look for flex in the chassis when he (or she) sits down.

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Check it over really well and remedy any safety issues - fuel lines, brakes, electrical, etc; get it running; start driving it if it isn't going to fold in half.

That is what I did with my '74. Took about a year to get it roadworthy (wasn't in a big hurry) and has been a daily driver for most of the past couple years (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

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