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American Racer Tires, Just ordered a set |
Woody |
Mar 26 2014, 06:39 AM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Can't really spring for a set of Avons right now so I am going to give these a shot. Its a bias slick in 10x23.5x15 with a fancy new AX compound and construction. These guys are trying to break into the AX and roadrace market since Goodyear went away. Unfortunately they don't offer many different sizes so I am stuck with going with a square setup. There is a local guy running them in an XP miata and he is very fast with them. He also runs Avons and said the American Racers are comparable. I will be running these on my 15x8s and 15x10s so the fronts will be a little bit pinched but I think it will work. Best part is shipped they were under $700. I'll let y'all know how they work out.
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jjackson |
Mar 26 2014, 10:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 5-October 10 From: maumelle, arkansas Member No.: 12,246 Region Association: None |
Can't really spring for a set of Avons right now so I am going to give these a shot. Its a bias slick in 10x23.5x15 with a fancy new AX compound and construction. These guys are trying to break into the AX and roadrace market since Goodyear went away. Unfortunately they don't offer many different sizes so I am stuck with going with a square setup. There is a local guy running them in an XP miata and he is very fast with them. He also runs Avons and said the American Racers are comparable. I will be running these on my 15x8s and 15x10s so the fronts will be a little bit pinched but I think it will work. Best part is shipped they were under $700. I'll let y'all know how they work out. Just ran against Nick this weekend-Seemed like a nice guy- let us know what you think about the new tire. J |
Matt Romanowski |
Mar 26 2014, 10:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 878 Joined: 4-January 04 From: Manchester, NH Member No.: 1,507 |
They make a lot of spec tires for different series. I've always heard they are much slower than other tires, but maybe they have something new.
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Woody |
Mar 26 2014, 10:29 AM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Can't really spring for a set of Avons right now so I am going to give these a shot. Its a bias slick in 10x23.5x15 with a fancy new AX compound and construction. These guys are trying to break into the AX and roadrace market since Goodyear went away. Unfortunately they don't offer many different sizes so I am stuck with going with a square setup. There is a local guy running them in an XP miata and he is very fast with them. He also runs Avons and said the American Racers are comparable. I will be running these on my 15x8s and 15x10s so the fronts will be a little bit pinched but I think it will work. Best part is shipped they were under $700. I'll let y'all know how they work out. Just ran against Nick this weekend-Seemed like a nice guy- let us know what you think about the new tire. J Yup he's a really nice guy. Very friendly and willing to talk about his setup. Was he running the American Racers or the Avons? They make a lot of spec tires for different series. I've always heard they are much slower than other tires, but maybe they have something new. Yes, they have a new compound called SC2100 if I remember correctly. I'm skeptical but we will see. |
jjackson |
Mar 26 2014, 10:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 5-October 10 From: maumelle, arkansas Member No.: 12,246 Region Association: None |
Can't really spring for a set of Avons right now so I am going to give these a shot. Its a bias slick in 10x23.5x15 with a fancy new AX compound and construction. These guys are trying to break into the AX and roadrace market since Goodyear went away. Unfortunately they don't offer many different sizes so I am stuck with going with a square setup. There is a local guy running them in an XP miata and he is very fast with them. He also runs Avons and said the American Racers are comparable. I will be running these on my 15x8s and 15x10s so the fronts will be a little bit pinched but I think it will work. Best part is shipped they were under $700. I'll let y'all know how they work out. Just ran against Nick this weekend-Seemed like a nice guy- let us know what you think about the new tire. J Yup he's a really nice guy. Very friendly and willing to talk about his setup. Was he running the American Racers or the Avons? They make a lot of spec tires for different series. I've always heard they are much slower than other tires, but maybe they have something new. Yes, they have a new compound called SC2100 if I remember correctly. I'm skeptical but we will see. He was running the american racers-said he liked them. |
Woody |
Mar 26 2014, 10:59 AM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Can't really spring for a set of Avons right now so I am going to give these a shot. Its a bias slick in 10x23.5x15 with a fancy new AX compound and construction. These guys are trying to break into the AX and roadrace market since Goodyear went away. Unfortunately they don't offer many different sizes so I am stuck with going with a square setup. There is a local guy running them in an XP miata and he is very fast with them. He also runs Avons and said the American Racers are comparable. I will be running these on my 15x8s and 15x10s so the fronts will be a little bit pinched but I think it will work. Best part is shipped they were under $700. I'll let y'all know how they work out. Just ran against Nick this weekend-Seemed like a nice guy- let us know what you think about the new tire. J Yup he's a really nice guy. Very friendly and willing to talk about his setup. Was he running the American Racers or the Avons? They make a lot of spec tires for different series. I've always heard they are much slower than other tires, but maybe they have something new. Yes, they have a new compound called SC2100 if I remember correctly. I'm skeptical but we will see. He was running the american racers-said he liked them. Was he fast? Comparatively? |
Randal |
Mar 26 2014, 12:07 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
Can't really spring for a set of Avons right now so I am going to give these a shot. Its a bias slick in 10x23.5x15 with a fancy new AX compound and construction. These guys are trying to break into the AX and roadrace market since Goodyear went away. Unfortunately they don't offer many different sizes so I am stuck with going with a square setup. There is a local guy running them in an XP miata and he is very fast with them. He also runs Avons and said the American Racers are comparable. I will be running these on my 15x8s and 15x10s so the fronts will be a little bit pinched but I think it will work. Best part is shipped they were under $700. I'll let y'all know how they work out. Wow, the price is right and shipping being included is very attractive. Did you contact them to ask about their plan for different sizes? |
Woody |
Mar 26 2014, 12:39 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I talked to Joe Henry at Day Motorsports in Texas, they are the distributor for the south. He said they will be coming out with some more sizes hopefully by the summer but couldn't tell me more than that. He was more of a salesman than a tire guru but had a couple of notes on the tires. He could not tell me what alignment settings or air pressure to begin with. He also couldn't tell me what the optimum tire temp for these would be. Problem is when I attempted to email American Racer directly they would forward my emails to Joe. I haven't run bias slicks before so I'll probably start with a degree of negative camber in the front, maybe 1/2 out back. I was running the A6s hot at 22 front and 21 rear. Probably try to shoot for that and see how it does.
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nolift914 |
Mar 26 2014, 01:02 PM
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Autoxer Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 24-May 09 From: Rockaway Beach NY Member No.: 10,399 Region Association: None |
I talked to Joe Henry at Day Motorsports in Texas, they are the distributor for the south. He said they will be coming out with some more sizes hopefully by the summer but couldn't tell me more than that. He was more of a salesman than a tire guru but had a couple of notes on the tires. He could not tell me what alignment settings or air pressure to begin with. He also couldn't tell me what the optimum tire temp for these would be. Problem is when I attempted to email American Racer directly they would forward my emails to Joe. I haven't run bias slicks before so I'll probably start with a degree of negative camber in the front, maybe 1/2 out back. I was running the A6s hot at 22 front and 21 rear. Probably try to shoot for that and see how it does. Keep us posted |
Randal |
Mar 26 2014, 02:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
I talked to Joe Henry at Day Motorsports in Texas, they are the distributor for the south. He said they will be coming out with some more sizes hopefully by the summer but couldn't tell me more than that. He was more of a salesman than a tire guru but had a couple of notes on the tires. He could not tell me what alignment settings or air pressure to begin with. He also couldn't tell me what the optimum tire temp for these would be. Problem is when I attempted to email American Racer directly they would forward my emails to Joe. I haven't run bias slicks before so I'll probably start with a degree of negative camber in the front, maybe 1/2 out back. I was running the A6s hot at 22 front and 21 rear. Probably try to shoot for that and see how it does. A few of us have lots of experience with bias ply slicks having run them for years. When you get ready for alignment I'll suggest a couple people for you to call. But in any event bias ply slicks like to be run straight up with very little camber and tow in. This applies to both Goodyear and Avons. As you run them and watch temperatures you'll see exactly what you need to do to get the tires hooked up. Tell us about their soft compounds. |
Woody |
Mar 26 2014, 03:22 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I talked to Joe Henry at Day Motorsports in Texas, they are the distributor for the south. He said they will be coming out with some more sizes hopefully by the summer but couldn't tell me more than that. He was more of a salesman than a tire guru but had a couple of notes on the tires. He could not tell me what alignment settings or air pressure to begin with. He also couldn't tell me what the optimum tire temp for these would be. Problem is when I attempted to email American Racer directly they would forward my emails to Joe. I haven't run bias slicks before so I'll probably start with a degree of negative camber in the front, maybe 1/2 out back. I was running the A6s hot at 22 front and 21 rear. Probably try to shoot for that and see how it does. A few of us have lots of experience with bias ply slicks having run them for years. When you get ready for alignment I'll suggest a couple people for you to call. But in any event bias ply slicks like to be run straight up with very little camber and tow in. This applies to both Goodyear and Avons. As you run them and watch temperatures you'll see exactly what you need to do to get the tires hooked up. Tell us about their soft compounds. Will do. I only toe in the rear. The front is toed out. |
Randal |
Mar 26 2014, 03:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
I talked to Joe Henry at Day Motorsports in Texas, they are the distributor for the south. He said they will be coming out with some more sizes hopefully by the summer but couldn't tell me more than that. He was more of a salesman than a tire guru but had a couple of notes on the tires. He could not tell me what alignment settings or air pressure to begin with. He also couldn't tell me what the optimum tire temp for these would be. Problem is when I attempted to email American Racer directly they would forward my emails to Joe. I haven't run bias slicks before so I'll probably start with a degree of negative camber in the front, maybe 1/2 out back. I was running the A6s hot at 22 front and 21 rear. Probably try to shoot for that and see how it does. A few of us have lots of experience with bias ply slicks having run them for years. When you get ready for alignment I'll suggest a couple people for you to call. But in any event bias ply slicks like to be run straight up with very little camber and tow in. This applies to both Goodyear and Avons. As you run them and watch temperatures you'll see exactly what you need to do to get the tires hooked up. Tell us about their soft compounds. Will do. I only toe in the rear. The front is toed out. Ah, that trick, especially with somewhat extreme settings, has been used by a few SCCA National Champs we know. |
Woody |
Mar 29 2014, 12:16 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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Woody |
Mar 29 2014, 12:19 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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Woody |
Mar 29 2014, 12:20 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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Woody |
Mar 29 2014, 12:21 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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Woody |
Mar 29 2014, 12:22 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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Randal |
Mar 29 2014, 03:13 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
Aren't those bias ply? Suggestion: You might consider a duck tail on your rear trunk, even for Autoxing. You can see the air movement with both here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRo-C0JpVOs...eature=youtu.be Lots of air being forced under the car, so lots of downforce on the front and the splitter pushed down at the back. |
Woody |
Mar 29 2014, 03:20 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Yes they are bias ply. That's the minimum amount of camber I could run in the front. On the rear I need to come up with some longer bolts for the shim stack. I'm going to run it with these settings next Sunday and take some temps. If there is too much camber I'll have to get creative.
I'm going to be working on a splitter and a wing here pretty soon. |
Woody |
Apr 7 2014, 08:49 AM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I ran them yesterday in the rain. There was very little standing water so I went with the slicks instead of my 888s. First impressions were pretty good although my driving sucked. Turn in is less crisp than with the A6s but it was an easy adjustment. They feel different under braking and I was having a hard time finding the threshold, granted the tire is a bit taller and it was wet out. I didn't find the limit through the slaloms but they would understeer just a bit mid corner before the back end would start to slide. Tire temps never got above 72 degrees with the rain. I started at 20 psi front cold and 19 psi rear cold and gained maybe 1 psi all around. I have another event this coming weekend so hopefully I can provide a better review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX2Urw2U5iQ |
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