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American Racer Tires, Just ordered a set |
Woody |
Apr 16 2014, 09:22 AM
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'73-914kid |
Apr 16 2014, 06:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California |
An aside...
These seem to be the preffered tire for some of the local Formula Ford guys becasue of price, availability, and grip... I think I'll order a set once I have my car back together. |
Woody |
Apr 19 2014, 07:35 AM
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Seabird |
Apr 19 2014, 08:53 AM
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Dang! Looking tough out there!
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Woody |
Apr 19 2014, 12:16 PM
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r_towle |
Apr 24 2014, 08:22 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Looks to me like a few to many lbs of pressure....
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Woody |
Apr 25 2014, 05:57 PM
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r_towle |
Apr 26 2014, 05:23 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
See how the back tire is flexing in the corner and the front is not.
I would suggest that you might want to have the fronts able to flex the same amount. I am specifically looking at the sidewall of the tire in the pictures above. |
Woody |
Apr 26 2014, 06:37 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'll let a pound or so out but I think what you are seeing is that I am running 10s front and rear but using 8 inch rims up front and 10" rims out back so the front tires are pinched just a bit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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r_towle |
Apr 27 2014, 07:46 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
I see that wheel width difference, and if your runs a great, leave it alone.
I just remember how well these cars push.... The pic with one tire off the ground, I would think the remaining tire would be flexing more under a turn like that, thus increasing the patch. Again, if it's working, cool...leave it. I remember whenever I changed anything on my car, I wasted at least a run or two learning the car again.... I got to the point where it was "run it as it stands" and just push what I had to learn how to drive that car on that day....with those tires... Not much help, sorry |
Randal |
Apr 27 2014, 09:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
If the temps are tracking and the car is hooking up then you've developed a great set up. It sure looks good in the pictures. Did you tie the cage to the shock towers / torsion bar mounts? No splitter / spoiler? I only mention this as they really do work well together. Here is a picture of mine. That was when I was running a square setup like I believe you are now. |
Woody |
Apr 27 2014, 10:10 AM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Working on putting a cage together now as well as some aero. Car will be getting a splitter and a wing or aggressive spoiler. I'm doing a bunch of stuff to the car this year. I am also in the process of building a high compression 2.4 /4. The car has very minimal understeer which transitions to mild oversteer. Again I am still working with this setup and figuring it out but I think I'm on the right track. I still have a long way to go to get where I want it to be.
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Randal |
Apr 27 2014, 10:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
Working on putting a cage together now as well as some aero. Car will be getting a splitter and a wing or aggressive spoiler. I'm doing a bunch of stuff to the car this year. I am also in the process of building a high compression 2.4 /4. The car has very minimal understeer which transitions to mild oversteer. Again I am still working with this setup and figuring it out but I think I'm on the right track. I still have a long way to go to get where I want it to be. You'll like the big 4. Nothing like having 175rwhp/170rwftlbs to play with, but it's an entirely new game. And FYI I've very seldom been beat by a 6, just a couple of times on bad tires, in process of trying a new set up/ sorting out a major issue or the biggest issue (always) coming out cold after a year off. And when you get in front of well driven GT3 or GT2 it will make your day. I think if we compared development (my picture above) would be where you are now, i.e., no cage tie in / aggressive splitter or spoiler, etc. I thought it was interesting. |
Woody |
Apr 27 2014, 11:44 AM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I Installed my 5 gallon cell yesterday. Hopefully will be getting my bilstein struts this week so I can raise the spindles and install them next weekend.
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Randal |
Apr 27 2014, 12:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
I Installed my 5 gallon cell yesterday. Hopefully will be getting my bilstein struts this week so I can raise the spindles and install them next weekend. Great move or moves. One additional thing - pretty much magic, but expensive. Raising the shock towers, as part of an overall stiffing exercise, really does produce results. That was going to be the next thing on 222. |
Woody |
Apr 27 2014, 01:26 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Raising the shock towers? Front and rear? I've been looking at Chris's kits. May have to consider them a little harder.
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Woody |
Apr 27 2014, 02:42 PM
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Woody |
Apr 27 2014, 02:43 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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jjackson |
Apr 28 2014, 01:23 PM
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Woody |
Apr 28 2014, 02:10 PM
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Sandbox Rabblerouser and head toilet scrubber Group: Members Posts: 3,858 Joined: 28-December 10 From: San Antonio Texas Member No.: 12,530 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I believe the car is half a second quicker than it was on fresh A6s. Once I get everything dialed in it may be a full second. I've only had one dry event and not everyone I normally base my times off of showed up. The car feels much faster because I haven't found the limit in the transitions. The turn in is "delayed" compared to the A6s but I believe that's because of the switch to a bias ply. I wouldn't call it understeer, just delayed a very small amount. The setup with the A6s was spot on. It will take me more than one good dry event to feel as confident in this new setup. To answer your question though, yes I believe they are faster and I like the feel.
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