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> CV joint wear, taken apart, cleaned up and worn out... I guess
malcolm2
post Apr 7 2014, 09:32 PM
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A thank you goes out to Mike Blizzard for supplying me with 2 axles this past weekend. I have taken them apart and cleaned the 40 year old grease out of them. I have watched Van Svensen's video on youtube and he showed 1 ?spider? with the same problem. He just turned his around. The outer portion of these CVs shows some wear.

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I would have thought the outer would have more wear. But maybe the wear comes from poor lubrication? I still have the 2nd axle's joints to clean up, but that will have to wait 'til Tuesday.

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The cage shows only a slight bit of shine where the balls sit. All the other goodies are cleaned and show not wear. Missing 2 schorr washers, so somone had been in here before me.

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My limited knowledge of this tells me that both of these joints are bad and to call Eric and get me some new CV joints. I can't imagine that there are any good used joints left, or parts for that matter.

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post Apr 20 2014, 09:32 AM
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Hi....what do you mean when you say it smoothed out your ride?
I have been chasing a shimmy for years in my car and have been thinking about new axles and cv's from Tangerine. I'd hate to spend the 600 bucks and not fix the problem. What kinds of problems were you having besides the clunking?
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post Apr 20 2014, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(MikeM @ Apr 20 2014, 10:32 AM) *

Hi....what do you mean when you say it smoothed out your ride?
I have been chasing a shimmy for years in my car and have been thinking about new axles and cv's from Tangerine. I'd hate to spend the 600 bucks and not fix the problem. What kinds of problems were you having besides the clunking?
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George's "Tech Tips 700" page 42 # 253 says: "A clicking noise while under way is caused by a dry CV joint.....worn joints can also cause a vibration in the seat of your pants."

It is really hard to put my finger on the exact improvement. I seem to have vibrations abound. But this is just one half shaft and 2 joints and I think it helped.

What you might do is watch Van's videos above and pull your axles, clean all the old grease off of your joints and look for wear. Then if all looks good, reload with fresh grease. After doing this, you might get the same improvement I got. I bet all that could be done in one weekend, maybe one day. For the cost of a weekend and 8 ounces of grease vs. the axles. Then if you do need Joints, just buy the joints.... about $100 each $400 for all.
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QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Apr 20 2014, 09:55 AM) *

QUOTE(MikeM @ Apr 20 2014, 10:32 AM) *

Hi....what do you mean when you say it smoothed out your ride?
I have been chasing a shimmy for years in my car and have been thinking about new axles and cv's from Tangerine. I'd hate to spend the 600 bucks and not fix the problem. What kinds of problems were you having besides the clunking?
Mike


George's "Tech Tips 700" page 42 # 253 says: "A clicking noise while under way is caused by a dry CV joint.....worn joints can also cause a vibration in the seat of your pants."

It is really hard to put my finger on the exact improvement. I seem to have vibrations abound. But this is just one half shaft and 2 joints and I think it helped.

What you might do is watch Van's videos above and pull your axles, clean all the old grease off of your joints and look for wear. Then if all looks good, reload with fresh grease. After doing this, you might get the same improvement I got. I bet all that could be done in one weekend, maybe one day. For the cost of a weekend and 8 ounces of grease vs. the axles. Then if you do need Joints, just buy the joints.... about $100 each $400 for all.

Yes, I have done the axles and joints. I took them apart and cleaned them up as best I could. Unfortunately they looked about the same as yours but I had to put them back together. My problem is a whole car shimmy, probably not the cv's unless an axle or stub axle is bent.
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post Apr 20 2014, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(MikeM @ Apr 20 2014, 06:33 PM) *

QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Apr 20 2014, 09:55 AM) *

QUOTE(MikeM @ Apr 20 2014, 10:32 AM) *

Hi....what do you mean when you say it smoothed out your ride?
I have been chasing a shimmy for years in my car and have been thinking about new axles and cv's from Tangerine. I'd hate to spend the 600 bucks and not fix the problem. What kinds of problems were you having besides the clunking?
Mike


George's "Tech Tips 700" page 42 # 253 says: "A clicking noise while under way is caused by a dry CV joint.....worn joints can also cause a vibration in the seat of your pants."

It is really hard to put my finger on the exact improvement. I seem to have vibrations abound. But this is just one half shaft and 2 joints and I think it helped.

What you might do is watch Van's videos above and pull your axles, clean all the old grease off of your joints and look for wear. Then if all looks good, reload with fresh grease. After doing this, you might get the same improvement I got. I bet all that could be done in one weekend, maybe one day. For the cost of a weekend and 8 ounces of grease vs. the axles. Then if you do need Joints, just buy the joints.... about $100 each $400 for all.

Yes, I have done the axles and joints. I took them apart and cleaned them up as best I could. Unfortunately they looked about the same as yours but I had to put them back together. My problem is a whole car shimmy, probably not the cv's unless an axle or stub axle is bent.
Thanks,
Mike


How old are your tires?
I had a shimmy with brand new looking tires, but in reality they were old. A belt had shifted.

CV wear will make noise, but it shouldn't cause a shimmy.
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Apr 20 2014, 06:38 PM) *



How old are your tires?
I had a shimmy with brand new looking tires, but in reality they were old. A belt had shifted.

CV wear will make noise, but it shouldn't cause a shimmy.


Tires are the next thing for me... I know I will get blasted from the forum..... I have 3 tires with date codes of 5000 and 1 with 0601. that is Dec 2000 (week 50) and Feb 2001. This car died soon after that, cause the tires are FULL TREAD, no side wall cracks. It sat for 10 years, then I bought it in 2011.

Go ahead and BLAST AWAY. I am sure they are the source of any shimmy that I have remaining. I should at least go to a JY and find some 2010 tires, right... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Maybe just the fronts.

I had one tire store tell me that they would not even put air in my tires...... I KNOW>>> (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif)
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malcolm2   CV joint wear   Apr 7 2014, 09:32 PM
stugray   I actually have a couple that I have marked as ...   Apr 7 2014, 10:54 PM
dangrouche   i think we all got that same affliction. keeping ...   Apr 7 2014, 11:11 PM
Mblizzard   I remember reading somewhere that you can either s...   Apr 8 2014, 05:04 AM
malcolm2   I remember reading somewhere that you can either ...   Apr 8 2014, 05:13 AM
914_teener   The inner race in the photo looks bad.....mine wer...   Apr 8 2014, 07:24 AM
malcolm2   I would call up Chris Foley and get new ones sinc...   Apr 8 2014, 12:20 PM
914_teener   I would call up Chris Foley and get new ones sin...   Apr 8 2014, 03:14 PM
malcolm2   The inner race in the photo looks bad.....mine we...   Apr 20 2014, 09:18 AM
wndsnd   I used Chris and had them next day.   Apr 8 2014, 02:15 PM
MikeM   Hi....what do you mean when you say it smoothed ou...   Apr 20 2014, 09:32 AM
malcolm2   Hi....what do you mean when you say it smoothed o...   Apr 20 2014, 09:55 AM
MikeM   [quote name='MikeM' post='2027096' date='Apr 20 2...   Apr 20 2014, 04:33 PM
Mark Henry   [quote name='MikeM' post='2027096' date='Apr 20 ...   Apr 20 2014, 05:38 PM
malcolm2   How old are your tires? I had a shimmy with br...   Apr 20 2014, 06:33 PM
914_teener   Mostly the inspection on tje CV 'S are visual....   Apr 20 2014, 08:08 PM
MikeM   Guys....I've tried everything. Swapped out tir...   Apr 20 2014, 09:33 PM
Mblizzard   Guys....I've tried everything. Swapped out ti...   Apr 21 2014, 03:58 AM
MikeM   Hi...car is a '74. I bought the rear centering...   Apr 21 2014, 05:00 AM
Mblizzard   Oh so the car is in the air and it shakes. Is tha...   Apr 21 2014, 06:19 AM
MikeM   Both...mostly wheels on though.   Apr 21 2014, 08:11 PM


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