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post Apr 17 2014, 09:39 AM
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I'm getting close (a relative term) to starting my motor for the first time. It is a stock 2.0 with Raby 9590 valve train. I know the easiest thing to do is put it in the car and start, but I have a running engine in the car now and I suspect I'll have to fix something after a try to start it. Here are my questions:

1) I have a spare transmission with starter. Can I start the engine without a clutch on the flywheel?

2) Can I start the engine without the alternator installed?

3) Without a charging system, can I use a car battery to power the coil and D-Jet for the break-in period (assuming I get that far) or will the battery die before then?

4) If I can't use a car battery to power the ignition and D-Jet, how big a power supply will I need?

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post Apr 17 2014, 04:26 PM
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If you hear a loud noise (that sounds like a rod) when you start it pull the valve covers and check to see if a rocker arm is hitting the cover. I almost shit in my shoes when it happened to me running that same valve train. Oh, you'll need a tach too, for break in.
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post Apr 18 2014, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Apr 17 2014, 06:26 PM) *

If you hear a loud noise (that sounds like a rod) when you start it pull the valve covers and check to see if a rocker arm is hitting the cover. I almost shit in my shoes when it happened to me running that same valve train.


I just finished putting my valvetrain together and I have also installed a 9590 cam. I have heard before about this issue of the rocker arms hitting the valve covers. or I suppose it is the adjusters hitting. I am using the 1.7 rockers with the 911 swivel foot adjusters.
It does seem the adjusters stick up a bit.


how common is this hitting?

I have new heads and valves. is this just an issue with valves that have been reground or heads that have seats that have been cut deeper?

Should I maybe clay the rocker covers for clearance?


I guess you just hammer a little clearance into the covers if its too close.
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post Apr 18 2014, 02:29 PM
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I just finished putting my valvetrain together and I have also installed a 9590 cam. I have heard before about this issue of the rocker arms hitting the valve covers. or I suppose it is the adjusters hitting. I am using the 1.7 rockers with the 911 swivel foot adjusters.
It does seem the adjusters stick up a bit.


how common is this hitting?

I have new heads and valves. is this just an issue with valves that have been reground or heads that have seats that have been cut deeper?

Should I maybe clay the rocker covers for clearance?


I guess you just hammer a little clearance into the covers if its too close.
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I used a hacksaw to cut off the extra length from the swivel foot adjusters then sawed in a new screw slot. Never had to worry about it.
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post Apr 18 2014, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(eyesright @ Apr 18 2014, 04:29 PM) *


I used a hacksaw to cut off the extra length from the swivel foot adjusters then sawed in a new screw slot. Never had to worry about it.


I also thought about this mod using a dremel to cut a new slot...
Hopefully it won't come to that.

Lift on this cam came out to be .433 - cam card said .426, so I got a little free lift.
Only used .015 shims under rocker arms.

Stu, Congrats on getting in a long drive... if I get to drive mine even down the street in 2014 I will be very happy. Lots of work to do still.
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Highland   First Engine Start Questions   Apr 17 2014, 09:39 AM
914itis   It is a bit complicated to bench start a djet. You...   Apr 17 2014, 09:57 AM
Dtjaden   I just did this with my engine rebuild. I wanted t...   Apr 17 2014, 10:10 AM
stugray   Here is some help: 1- Dont install the pushrods (...   Apr 17 2014, 10:19 AM
kkid   Here is some help: 1- Dont install the pushrods ...   May 29 2014, 03:04 PM
Highland   Here is some help: 1- Dont install the pushrods ...   Jun 4 2014, 07:57 AM
Highland   Thanks for all the great advice. I actually do ha...   Apr 17 2014, 03:18 PM
914itis   A hood battery will last. I know of someone with ...   Apr 17 2014, 04:07 PM
Dave_Darling   I think that as long as you power the fuel pump, t...   Apr 17 2014, 04:13 PM
r_towle   I think that as long as you power the fuel pump, ...   Apr 18 2014, 07:39 PM
76-914   If you hear a loud noise (that sounds like a rod) ...   Apr 17 2014, 04:26 PM
Olympic 1.7   If you hear a loud noise (that sounds like a rod)...   Apr 18 2014, 12:12 PM
eyesright   I just finished putting my valvetrain together and...   Apr 18 2014, 02:29 PM
Olympic 1.7   I used a hacksaw to cut off the extra length fro...   Apr 18 2014, 03:22 PM
stugray   I just put in a cam with more lift than the cams y...   Apr 18 2014, 12:19 PM
Highland   I tried building oil pressure today and the engine...   May 29 2014, 12:22 PM
AE354803   If I remember correctly I didn't see much of a...   May 29 2014, 12:59 PM
stugray   It took me longer than I expected. Just as I was a...   May 29 2014, 12:41 PM
stugray   These systems pull oil from the crankcase and bl...   May 29 2014, 03:17 PM
Highland   I tried cranking more this afternoon. No oil pres...   May 29 2014, 05:07 PM
bdstone914   I tried cranking more this afternoon. No oil pre...   May 29 2014, 05:24 PM
AE354803   Should I look for another pump and swap pumps? ...   May 29 2014, 06:33 PM
Dave_Darling   I used a turkey baster to squirt oil up into the p...   May 29 2014, 05:55 PM
stugray   do you only have the vdo oil press gauge? I start...   May 29 2014, 08:57 PM
Highland   I was using an oil pressure gage from Harbor Freig...   May 29 2014, 09:48 PM
stugray   I have never tried it, but has anyone ever filled ...   May 30 2014, 07:27 AM
Java2570   When I did my rebuild last year, I had a few tense...   Jun 4 2014, 09:41 AM


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