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Catching the fever/ 911 suspension? |
brant |
Apr 28 2014, 01:45 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
good job pulling the strut
any side to side wiggle where the shaft travels through the nut? thats the right nut if its tight then I apologize.. often it isn't and a big pair or pliers helps firm it up could it be that the ride height was low enough to cause something to bottom out or hit? often if that is the case there is some sign of worn paint or fresh contact I use a large tire iron bar to wedge into the suspension when the car is weighted (on the ground), and then pry all of the ball joints and tie rods to look for wiggle or slop... then jack the car up with the wheels tight and with hands at 12 and 6pm, check the wheel bearings by wiggling the wheel from top and bottom. |
Ben and Ralph |
Apr 28 2014, 01:52 PM
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Ben Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 8-July 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,917 Region Association: Southern California |
Nope no wiggle, and the nut is on pretty damn tight, how fast should the insert compress? Mine has resistance but it compresses all the way in about 4 sec.
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brant |
Apr 28 2014, 01:56 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Nope no wiggle, and the nut is on pretty damn tight, how fast should the insert compress? Mine has resistance but it compresses all the way in about 4 sec. Different brands have different tuning. But the fact that it isn't blown and has consistent resistance means it is probably good. When the seal goes out it has zero resistance or dead spots |
Eric_Shea |
Apr 28 2014, 01:59 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Looks like a KYB nut.
You may have found your problem. |
r_towle |
Apr 28 2014, 05:35 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Do you have an anti sway bar?
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Ben and Ralph |
Apr 28 2014, 10:14 PM
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Ben Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 8-July 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,917 Region Association: Southern California |
I believe I have found the source of the clunking!
This vertical shaft (sorry i dont know the technical names for these parts) is loose inside where it connects to the horizontal one. The bushing that it goes into is rotted. When the car is jacked up, i can wobble the rim back forth a bit because of it. What are the names of these parts? where can get the bushing? how is it replaced? |
Eric_Shea |
Apr 28 2014, 10:57 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You need a new ball joint. It attaches the "strut" (vertical) to the a-arm (horizontal).
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Ben and Ralph |
Apr 28 2014, 11:25 PM
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Ben Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 8-July 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,917 Region Association: Southern California |
Should probably replace the one on the other side while I'm at it huh?
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brant |
Apr 28 2014, 11:28 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Ouch. Good that you found it
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Eric_Shea |
Apr 29 2014, 07:44 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'd get both... yes. They aren't cheap though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Also look into finding, borrowing, renting or purchasing a P210 tool. |
bdstone914 |
Apr 29 2014, 07:53 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,529 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
I believe I have found the source of the clunking! This vertical shaft (sorry i dont know the technical names for these parts) is loose inside where it connects to the horizontal one. The bushing that it goes into is rotted. When the car is jacked up, i can wobble the rim back forth a bit because of it. What are the names of these parts? where can get the bushing? how is it replaced? You may need a new strut. Someone modified that one to use a through bolt at nut. This is an early car? Looks like an oversize bolt too. Original is 10mm. It threads into the strut and pinches the bottom around the ball joint. What does the other side look like? The surface when the nut would contact is not flat as they are made. See if the bolt is loos or worn. |
Ben and Ralph |
Apr 29 2014, 08:25 AM
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Ben Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 8-July 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,917 Region Association: Southern California |
is that a tool i need to replace it? do i need to buy/replace any washers/lock washers ect. Is the car safe to drive for now? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) its my daily driver so im kind of shit out of luck
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pcar916 |
Apr 29 2014, 08:32 AM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None |
Am I the only one who sees a crack in the arm or are my eyes screwed up? If they aren't that arm needs to be replaced/welded.
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Ben and Ralph |
Apr 29 2014, 09:09 AM
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Ben Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 8-July 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,917 Region Association: Southern California |
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Ben and Ralph |
Apr 29 2014, 10:30 PM
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Ben Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 8-July 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,917 Region Association: Southern California |
Am I the only one who sees a crack in the arm or are my eyes screwed up? If they aren't that arm needs to be replaced/welded. Yup, definitely a crack. Going to be replacing the A arm, ball joint and strut since whoever "worked" on the car jerry rigged something on the bottom of the strut. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
Eric_Shea |
Apr 30 2014, 06:10 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Saw that... I thought it was paint too.
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pcar916 |
Apr 30 2014, 02:01 PM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None |
You'd have caught it while replacing the ball joints anyway, but the earlier the better. Glad you put the pic up here.
While posting a pic on another thing altogether, I had a caliper installation error pointed out by a member that I hadn't noticed. Good luck |
Chris Pincetich |
Apr 30 2014, 02:23 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
YUP saw that big crack in the A-arm. OMG, glad that was caught before it broke!
Ben and Ralph - you'll save a lot of time and headaches searching and reading lots of DIY posts here. I know it helped me go from "never done it" to "I can do it" in just a few months with my 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I had a bad a-arm on my 914. I built an entirely new suspension from collected new/used parts, repainted/coated most, then swapped the whole thing. Very satisfying how easy it is to swap the whole suspension in front. Leave the brakes, steering, etc and build up new tie rods onto struts, ball joints onto a-arms and struts, new bushings on a-arms, and inserts into struts. The new turbo tie rods and new a-arm bushings made a huge difference. Good luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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