car not fireing up, car had sat for a month , put in fresh gas an charged bat ,but no start |
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car not fireing up, car had sat for a month , put in fresh gas an charged bat ,but no start |
thelogo |
Apr 28 2014, 01:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Tried to get the teener started today
It started , an ran for approx two minutes , warmed up Then died and cannot get it going again I tried adding two gallons of fresh gas ,still nothing Just cranks that's it , no sputters ,nothing Fuel pump is making noise when key is in start position . Any suggestions ??? Georgia peach my ass , Georgia trash is what you are . " The great Ty Cobb T |
r_towle |
Apr 28 2014, 01:21 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
do you have spark?
Do you have fuel at the injectors? For spark, you can put a timing light on one of the leads and see if it flashes... For fuel, take one injector out and put it in a glass baby food jar....turn the car over and see if its spraying any fuel. rich |
thelogo |
Apr 28 2014, 01:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
do you have spark? Do you have fuel at the injectors? For spark, you can put a timing light on one of the leads and see if it flashes... For fuel, take one injector out and put it in a glass baby food jar....turn the car over and see if its spraying any fuel. rich I have no way of determining spark ( no timing light presently ) or am I down for the fuel injectors baby bottle test ( fire hassdard I'm thinkin) I understand these limitations make it diffucult to impossible to troubleshoot But It ran bueatiful for a few minutes so I assume spark and spray were adequate . ??? |
Bob L. |
Apr 28 2014, 01:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: 7-August 11 From: Austin TX Member No.: 13,411 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Clogged fuel filter? Test the injectors in a jar. It's only a fire hazard if you let it spray around the hot engine, sparks or are smoking when you do it. You need to make sure the fuel is getting through he system
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7TPorsh |
Apr 28 2014, 02:18 PM
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7T Porsh Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California |
Look for loose wire at the coil, battery
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thelogo |
Apr 28 2014, 05:35 PM
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r_towle |
Apr 28 2014, 05:40 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
No such thing as vapor lock.
Pull a spark plug, plug it back into the correct plug wire, hold the plug body against ground, turn over motor, see if you have a spark. For fuel, you need to see if you are getting fuel. Safest way is to undo the one 10mm nut that hold the injector in place and stick the end into a glass jar for safety....turn over motor with coil wire removed...so you will have no spark present.... See if you have fuel. These two tests are bare minimum to see if you have fuel and spark. Otherwise, send it to a shop for them to test it out for you. Rich |
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Apr 28 2014, 05:43 PM
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Clogged fuel filter? Test the injectors in a jar. It's only a fire hazard if you let it spray around the hot engine, sparks or are smoking when you do it. You need to make sure the fuel is getting through he system Just out of curiosity where is the fuel fiilter ??? Engine bay ? Aka boot or bonnet ? |
thelogo |
Apr 28 2014, 06:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Tried to get the teener started today It started , an ran for approx two minutes , warmed up Then died and cannot get it going again I tried adding two gallons of fresh gas ,still nothing Just cranks that's it , no sputters ,nothing Fuel pump is making noise when key is in start position . Any suggestions ??? Ok so when I crank the motor , large 15in around see photo attached )( gasoline leaks from right in front of the right rear tire . Your thought here , my thoughts , ,,smell like gas Battery has been removed from chasis - He'll hole Georgia peach my ass , Georgia trash is what you are . " The great Ty Cobb T |
thelogo |
Apr 28 2014, 06:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Tried to get the teener started today It started , an ran for approx two minutes , warmed up Then died and cannot get it going again I tried adding two gallons of fresh gas ,still nothing Just cranks that's it , no sputters ,nothing Fuel pump is making noise when key is in start position . Any suggestions ??? Ok so when I crank the motor , large 15in around see photo attached )( gasoline leaks from right in front of the right rear tire . Your thought here , my thoughts , ,,smell like gas Battery has been removed from chasis - He'll hole Georgia peach my ass , Georgia trash is what you are . " The great Ty Cobb Ok so when I crank the motor , large 15in around see photo attached )( gasoline leaks from right in front of the right rear tire . Your thought here , my thoughts , ,,smell like gas Battery has been removed from chasis - He'll hole Georgia peach my ass , Georgia trash is what you are . " The great Ty Cobb T Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Apr 28 2014, 06:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Tried to get the teener started today It started , an ran for approx two minutes , warmed up Then died and cannot get it going again I tried adding two gallons of fresh gas ,still nothing Just cranks that's it , no sputters ,nothing Fuel pump is making noise when key is in start position . Any suggestions ??? Ok so when I crank the motor , large 15in around see photo attached )( gasoline leaks from right in front of the right rear tire . Your thought here , my thoughts , ,,smell like gas Battery has been removed from chasis - He'll hole Georgia peach my ass , Georgia trash is what you are . " The great Ty Cobb Hopefully.there won't be any great balls of fire in my future """" Ok so when I crank the motor , large 15in around see photo attached )( gasoline leaks from right in front of the right rear tire . Your thought here , my thoughts , ,,smell like gas Battery has been removed from chasis - He'll hole Georgia peach my ass , Georgia trash is what you are . " The great Ty Cobb T |
TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 28 2014, 06:52 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Like the others have said, you need to verify fuel and spark.
I finally figured out your multiqoute posting yoursel.. You obviously have fuel if it's leaking in front of the tire. Try switching the relays around on the relay board. Not necessary to quote yourself. Just post away. |
thelogo |
Apr 28 2014, 07:05 PM
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Like the others have said, you need to verify fuel and spark. I finally figured out your multiqoute posting yoursel.. You obviously have fuel if it's leaking in front of the tire. Try switching the relays around on the relay board. Not necessary to quote yourself. Just post away. I'm pretty convinced that no gas is going in the motor because its all spraying on the ground In front of right rear rr So all spark related items ,coils ,plugs ,wires ,relays are in tip top sharp and I have no reason to believe they are in question So I'm going to focus on the fuel , aka fuel leak But not sure where to begin as ,no gas is present in the engine bay ,only underneathv But I know some one here has had an overcomes this problem long before me an will Chime in an bail me out I'm just glad I didn't spark a flame thrower behind my ass Then again " light a fire under this guys ass will ya." Tommy lasorda, |
TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 28 2014, 07:21 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Your fuel pump and the lines are in front of the rr tire.
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thelogo |
Apr 28 2014, 07:25 PM
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Bob L. |
Apr 28 2014, 07:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: 7-August 11 From: Austin TX Member No.: 13,411 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Fuel on the ground doesn't mean it's getting to the injectors. Filter location depends on year, could be next to pump, not sure. A clog could be the cause of the leak. some years have the pump on the firewall under the battery. Watch for the leak while someone turns the key/cranks it with the coil unplugged.
Gas leak BAD!! |
Qarl |
Apr 28 2014, 07:40 PM
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Shriveled member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None |
Lots of possibilities...
It can be broken/cracked plastic fuel lines under the fuel tank It can be a broken pump (which may be under the tank) or near the cross member, or in the rear depending on year. It can be a dry-rotted fuel line (under the tank) You may be able to verify the above by jacking up the front of the car, removing the front passenger side wheel, and looking up under the cross member/steering rack. If you have a cover pan, that may need to be removed. It can be debris/crud clogging the filter screen in the tank. It cab be an old/clogged fuel filter (which can be under the tank or under the engine shelf). |
r_towle |
Apr 28 2014, 07:43 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Stock car, your fuel pump and filter are underneath the car in front of the rear tire.
Almost right under your battery, but you can only get to them from under the car. If that leak is up front, you also have two rubber fuel lines under the tank. From underneath the front, you can remove the access panel that covers the steering rack by removing two 17mm bolts and two 13 mm bolts....those are the two wrench you need to take underneath. Once that panel is removed, you will see a hole about 3 inches in diameter, that is right under the rubber fuel lines....get a flashlight and mirror in there, you will see them. Rich |
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Apr 28 2014, 08:04 PM
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[quote name='r_towle' date='Apr 28 2014, 06:43 PM' post='2030641']
Stock car, your fuel pump and filter are underneath the car in front of the rear tire. Almost right under your battery, but you can only get to them from under the car. If that leak is up front, you also have two rubber fuel lines under the tank. From underneath the front, you can remove the access panel that covers the steering rack by removing two 17mm bolts and two 13 mm bolts....those are the two wrench you need to take underneath. Once that panel is removed, you will see a hole about 3 inches in diameter, that is right under the rubber fuel lines....get a flashlight and mirror in there, you will see them. Rich [/q Thanks rich its stock and definitely leaking by rr. Right rear Where do I access this area ,underneath someone said ? In the photo the car was rolled back into garage when I tried Starting it was a car length forward |
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Apr 28 2014, 09:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Is this my problem ,don't see a lot of fuel or hose cracks anywhere else
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