 OT: American Motored Muts, Whats out there? |
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| djm914-6 |
 Jan 13 2005, 09:05 PM
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Happiness is: Getting on the road  Group: Members Posts: 1,864 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Burlington MA Member No.: 248 Region Association: None  |
Looking at all these V8 powered teeners got me thinking (and it almost hurt too)...
Are there any German/ American Muts? What other Muts exist? Here's a start: Ford Cobra - Britt AC Bristal with Ford BB power Jensen Healy - Britt with Chrysler BB power Pantera - Italian with Ford BB power and a Chrysler warrenty sold through Mercury dealers. Sunbeam Tiger (who made that?) - Yet another Brittish car with American Iron. |
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| dlee1967 |
Jan 13 2005, 09:17 PM
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V8Lurker Group: Members Posts: 540 Joined: 20-February 03 From: Splendora, TX Member No.: 327 Region Association: None |
How about the TVR Griffith......British car...Ford HiPo 289...
See the attached link................TVR History DLee Attached image(s) 
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| DuckRyder |
Jan 13 2005, 09:34 PM
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Avatars Mode: OFF because of the recalcitrant few. Group: Benefactors Posts: 767 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Georgia Member No.: 110  |
IIRC, Panteras are usuually 351 Cleveland powered, Which is a 335 series motor and closer to a small block than a Big Block.
How about Caterham Super 7 = A british copy or a british car powered by a one of several Ford 4 cylinders |
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| ws91420 |
Jan 13 2005, 09:59 PM
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Yes I have one a Lensley 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,063 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ruther Glen,VA (halfway between sticks and civilization) Member No.: 1,137 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
new Lotus Elise with Toyota engine
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| Joe Bob |
Jan 13 2005, 10:33 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Rover and a few other Brits used Buick 215 aluminum V8s...
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| DuckRyder |
Jan 13 2005, 10:38 PM
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Avatars Mode: OFF because of the recalcitrant few. Group: Benefactors Posts: 767 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Georgia Member No.: 110 |
Oh yeah Land Rover was using BMW engines in the Range Rover until this year (or is it next)
Aparently Cadillac is inking a deal to run BMW (or Possibly Fiat) Diesels in the EC. |
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| MattR |
Jan 13 2005, 11:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
"Ford Cobra"
Not to nitpick, but isnt it a Shelby Cobra? And the first cobras had small blocks (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) "Sunbeam Tiger" That was a Sunbeam Alpine (kinda obscure british roadster like the AC) that they hired Shelby to put a V8 in after the Shelby Cobra was released. |
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| Joe Bob |
Jan 13 2005, 11:16 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
T he original Cobra was developed from the Ace, launched in 1953. The Ace was itself developed from a racer designed by John Tojeiro (later, to give his endorsement to the British DAX Cobra replica). It featured independent suspension by transverse leaf springs, Bristol power and Ferrari inspired bodywork. The body style changed on the production Ace and power was by AC's alloy 1,991cc , ohc , six; a well-known unit originally designed by AC's founder, John Weller, in the 192Os.
Shelby...from what I have heard....used the design but didn't pay any royalties.... He also "resurrected" some frames in the 90s that had titles, never registered and had been in a fire....they suddenly showed up on the market as "new" 1965 ish models built from spare parts....I also heard he paid cash for his heart transplant after he sold these cars..... Just what "I" have heard....could be urban legend....dunno. |
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| Lou W |
Jan 13 2005, 11:40 PM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
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| bondo |
Jan 14 2005, 01:23 AM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
There was a special edition MGBGT that came out in the 90s sometime that used that engine too.. I think it was called the RV8. Also, don't the euro Elises use an Opel engine? |
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| sixnotfour |
Jan 14 2005, 01:30 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,415 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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true story I saw in Kit car magazine way back then. 90's I think they were 500K Heart Fund donation |
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| Joe Ricard |
Jan 14 2005, 06:56 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Ford contour uses a Chrome cat on the hood and calls them a Jaguar.
BMW washed their car in hot water and called it a mini. Love them Panteras probably would sell both my teeners for one of them. |
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| ws91420 |
Jan 14 2005, 06:58 AM
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Yes I have one a Lensley 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,063 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ruther Glen,VA (halfway between sticks and civilization) Member No.: 1,137 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
British Noble M12 uses a supercharged Ford V-6 and trans. Only avail here w/o engine and trans to make it a kit car.
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| v82go |
Jan 14 2005, 09:40 AM
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Resident Contrarian Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 9-December 04 From: Lakeland, Fl. Member No.: 3,250 |
I Love my Monster Miata
1992 Miata with 1992 Mustang 5.0 running gear Attached image(s) 
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| Andy |
Jan 14 2005, 12:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 106 Joined: 25-September 03 From: Fort Collins, CO Member No.: 1,194 |
Not all motor mutts, but...
But V12 Jaguar XJS's have GM - TH400 transmissions - even several years after Jaguar became part of Ford. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) Jeep likes their own (and AMC's, Chrysler's, Buicks's etc) motors but gets transmissions from someone else too; Peugoet (French), Aosin (Japanese, humorously they also supply transmissions to Toyota), Getrag (German). DiamlerChysler 3.0 V6s back to the 80's are Mitsubishi motors. All sorts of small chevy diesels are Isuzu motors. |
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| stecz |
Jan 14 2005, 12:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 20-February 04 From: Cedar Park, TX Member No.: 1,688 |
There were factory MGB-GT V8 in the early 70s also (Buick V8), hardtops only, no convertibles. The Land Rover Discovery used the Buick V8 until they converted the BMW engine and now the Jag engine (ford based). |
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| maf914 |
Jan 14 2005, 02:45 PM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None
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No one mentioned the Jenson Interceptor, a big British GT with a Chrysler 440 and automatic tranny.
Or the Bizzirini, an Italian GT with a Chevrolet 327. Or the various British built Can-Am and GT racing cars from Lola, McLaren, BRM, March, Cooper, Lotus, etc. powered by Ford and Chevy V-8's. Also I thought I had read that old Rolls used GM auto trannys. Got to be some more! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) |
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| jd74914 |
Jan 14 2005, 05:08 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
I've got a friend whose uncle has a '74. Its really nice, though lately it hasn't come out of the garage since he's been reupholstering it's seats (we thought they looked good before) Very unique car; with endless power. We saw him do a burnout in 5th, and then leave the parking lot and squeal for over a mile down the road. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) Joe, according to this guy (whose name also happens to be Joe (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) ), the secret is not being married. He's saved enough $$ for the pristine Pantera, a 900hp (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) (no NOS) 7sec 1/4mile T-Bucket Hot Rod (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif) , and his daily driver is a blown (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) 500hp Mustang (that looks like the cheapo 6 cylinder models) Anyways, back to the topic at hand Question: Is this for factory muts only or cool customs. I've seen beetles with blown v8's, and Triumphs w/ SBC's and Grand national engines and lots of other wierd stuff. I can't think of any more factory muts though (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) |
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| ws91420 |
Jan 14 2005, 05:15 PM
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Yes I have one a Lensley 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,063 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ruther Glen,VA (halfway between sticks and civilization) Member No.: 1,137 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Contours and Mystiques are Mazda 626 or 6's. GM owns part of Isuzu, Saab, Fuji Heavy Industries(read Subaru), and Saab has a new car based on the Impreza built by Subaru.
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| djm914-6 |
Jan 18 2005, 01:12 PM
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Happiness is: Getting on the road Group: Members Posts: 1,864 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Burlington MA Member No.: 248 Region Association: None |
Anyone know what motor resides in the Jaguar XJ8? I saw one this morning and thought it had potential. Classic Jag lines and if it had Mustang power...
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