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| Portia |
 May 25 2014, 09:20 AM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 25-May 14 From: Omaha, NE Member No.: 17,396 Region Association: None  |
Hello, everyone! I am new to the forum, and to 914s. I just dragged home a 1973 914 1.7L that has been in storage for 27 years, and not started during that time. (It was owned by one man since 1974.) It is in need of inner rocker replacement and door sill/jamb replacement on the passenger side as well.
The goal of the project is to make it safe and get it running while keeping it as original as possible for as little money as possible. Last night my husband and I pulled the gas tank preparatory to replacing the fuel lines. The car was put into storage out of gas, fortunately. The tank looks good from the outside. Should we get it boiled out and sealed, or is this an unneccessary expense? If we don't do that, I will probably use POR15's cleaner and degreaser with a quart of hot water to clean it. Photos: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i603.photobucket.com-17396-1401031248.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i603.photobucket.com-17396-1401031249.2.jpg) Tank: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i603.photobucket.com-17396-1401031249.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i603.photobucket.com-17396-1401031249.4.jpg) I'm sure I'll have other questions as the resurrection continues. Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
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| PanelBilly |
May 25 2014, 09:27 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,808 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Kim inside the tank. Sometimes they survive very we'll. you will need to pull the fittings on the bottom and replace the filter sock and gaskets.
And welcome to the fun house |
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| PanelBilly |
May 25 2014, 09:29 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,808 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Damn, I was first to welcome a newbie. I'm feeling special now. When do I get my crown?
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| Mike Bellis |
May 25 2014, 09:35 AM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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Any local radiator shop can boil it for you. Just don't use the POR15 sealer in the tank. Too many horror stories about that stuff. Change ALL the rubber hose bits. Get a fire extinguisher. All the fuel lines in the engine bay will be dry rotted after sitting so long. Check in the member vendor section for parts. Welcome to the madness... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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| Socalandy |
May 25 2014, 10:01 AM
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Its got to be Yellow!!! Group: Members Posts: 2,432 Joined: 29-August 09 From: Orange Member No.: 10,742 Region Association: Southern California |
I've used RedKote on my last two cars and no issues. The 72 was done over 6 years ago
http://damonq.com/red-kote.html Attached image(s) 
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| Krieger |
May 25 2014, 10:18 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,720 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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Pull off the filler neck and give a look inside. You will need a new gasket up there anyway. If there is no rust I am not sure if you should do anything. My had a little so I used an eastwood kit 20 years ago and It has been great. Included stripper. Welcome!
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| Chris H. |
May 25 2014, 10:57 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,031 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Take a look inside. It might be fine in there. Mine was like new when I looked at it last year.
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| Portia |
May 25 2014, 12:40 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 25-May 14 From: Omaha, NE Member No.: 17,396 Region Association: None |
Thanks, everyone. Now should I replace the clear plastic lines that run from the brake reservoir to the master? There is no fluid in the reservoir or the lines, so they may be cracked down below, but the brakes do work - at very slow speeds, anyway - so I guess the level must just be very low.
If so, what should I replace them with? Is there anything else I should do before the tank goes back in? |
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| stugray |
May 25 2014, 01:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
If the master cylinder has been sitting that long with no fluid, it is most likely ruined.
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| bdstone914 |
May 25 2014, 02:09 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,526 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
The clear lines should be fine. They do not see any pressure.
The master cylinder is probably bad. Check all of the flex lines too. The 19mm masters are less expensive now than the original 17mm ones. Bruce |
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| green914 |
May 25 2014, 03:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,467 Joined: 29-March 11 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 12,874 Region Association: Northern California |
Hope you are (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif) soon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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| rick 918-S |
May 25 2014, 05:41 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,467 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Did anyone else notice where the wrecker driver hooked the car? That has to be a pretty solid car or it would have folded up! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Nice Start!
You want the best success with the brakes replace the master and the soft lines, rebuild the calipers or get rebuilt ones from PMB in the member vendor section. and do a search for setting the rear brake venting. |
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| Cairo94507 |
May 25 2014, 05:46 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,787 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Hey welcome and are those 5 lug wheels I see?
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| Portia |
May 25 2014, 06:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 25-May 14 From: Omaha, NE Member No.: 17,396 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ May 25 2014, 06:46 PM)  You're looking at period-correct aftermarket wheel covers, I believe! VW steelies underneath. What I can't understand is why the brake pedal stopped the car. Maybe there's a little fluid in the lines, even though there's none in the reservoir. It was the pedal I was using, not the e-brake. ETA: I pulled the fuel level sending unit and filler neck today. The inside of the tank is clean and shiny, so I think I won't worry about getting it cleaned. |
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| Mikedrevguy |
May 26 2014, 06:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Portia @ May 25 2014, 05:09 PM) QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ May 25 2014, 06:46 PM) You're looking at period-correct aftermarket wheel covers, I believe! VW steelies underneath. What I can't understand is why the brake pedal stopped the car. Maybe there's a little fluid in the lines, even though there's none in the reservoir. It was the pedal I was using, not the e-brake. ETA: I pulled the fuel level sending unit and filler neck today. The inside of the tank is clean and shiny, so I think I won't worry about getting it cleaned. How lucky is that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Pulled our tank- sending unit and all- varnish corrosion blargh. Sending unit is likely toast, but well see. It's headed to the radiator shop in am to get dipped and sealed. Good luck! Hope you are driving soon. My better half is h so excited to get her car on road. |
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| Portia |
May 26 2014, 09:51 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 25-May 14 From: Omaha, NE Member No.: 17,396 Region Association: None |
Here's some pics of my tank:
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i603.photobucket.com-17396-1401162702.1.jpg) As pulled: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i603.photobucket.com-17396-1401162702.2.jpg) Cleaned and sprayed with Duplicolor Rust Fix: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i603.photobucket.com-17396-1401162702.3.jpg) Painted with matte black Rustoleum: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i603.photobucket.com-17396-1401162703.4.jpg) I'm enjoying working on the car. I'll be glad to get it running, but I have a secret weapon to keep the anticipation from killing me - a Miata in the garage. It helps. Try it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| r_towle |
May 26 2014, 10:01 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,584 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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many here have tried.
Some talk about it openly, others deny it ever happened. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| r_towle |
May 26 2014, 10:02 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,584 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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| zambezi |
May 26 2014, 10:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 711 Joined: 14-April 08 From: Lafayette, LA Member No.: 8,920 Region Association: South East States |
Great looking tank!!!! If we all were so lucky to have that clean of a tank to start with. I agree to going through the brakes, do it now and you won't have to think about it for quite a while. Is it still fuel injected? Looks like you got a good starting point. Was it an original Texas car? Hopefully from dry west Texas, which would explain why the jack point was strong enough to anchor the car down.
Jim |
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| Portia |
May 27 2014, 01:34 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 25-May 14 From: Omaha, NE Member No.: 17,396 Region Association: None |
Heh, heh. Funny photo with the Miata there.
The car was in Texas only for a while - the owner bought it in Lincoln, Ne., and was transferred to Texas only for a year or so, I understood. When they moved back to Nebraska, they didn't register it here because it was nonoperational at that time. New Question: Which company makes the best-fitting restoration parts? Is one better than another? I need to order the door sill, door jamb, and inner rocker on the passenger side, for a start. What do you guys think of the clamshell Auto Atlanta makes? It attaches over the top of the inner rockers so you don't have to take them off first. Is this a cheap, half-a**ed way to do it? Or is it a respected alternative? |
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