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> Has anyone in the US done this swing arm mod?
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post Jun 22 2014, 10:00 AM
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This was done by a gentlemen in Finland and posted here a couple of months ago. I find myself in a bit of a pickle as I read here that many guys had used the 944 Fuchs front the front (7" because 8" were on the back of 944's)) and had them on standard 914 (5 lugs of course) with no rub issues. So I bought them, restored them and mounted some pilot's (205/55/ZR16)'s to be exact. Ok, dumb me...I admit. Well, on the rear, I'm about 1" off and no-where to go and this solution looks awesome. Was wondering if there was any mods to the axles as well (I'm running turbo axles and CV's) as this is a renegade. ANYONE done this here in the states? Anyone capable or would want to take this on? Welding for me is marginal at best and to keep it aligned right has me worried. Thinking a machine shop (a professional) would be the best.


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post Jun 22 2014, 11:11 AM
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Won't you also need shorter axles? You might be money ahead by selling the restored Fuchs and picking up a set with the right offset instead.
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post Jun 22 2014, 01:07 PM
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Get in touch with Rich Johnson (a914guy@aol.com). He did this on his car years ago. The man that did the work is no longer able to do it, but he might be able to help you out with getting it done.
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post Jun 22 2014, 01:24 PM
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6inch Fuchs (or cookies) fit stock cars. 7x15 fit pulled fenders.
You might be able to use your wheels with 185 tires.

It's somewhat irresponsible for people to blanket clIm that 7's fit as I often see posted
7's can sometimes work with pulling but not always and I believe pulling is involved

I have two cars with 7's but the hammer beating was extensive on oth

Sell your 7's and buy some 6's. You can likely keep your tires that way
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post Jun 22 2014, 02:06 PM
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Hey thanks for the info guys...... I just send a message to Mr. Johnson to see what he did. I really want more meat with a stock appearence. We shall see.

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post Jun 22 2014, 02:10 PM
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I did these, used bus IRS axles,,,way to much work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

the ones you show , I doubt you can use handbrake calipers..


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post Jun 22 2014, 05:16 PM
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Unclear what would be acceptable to you, but also 7"x16 boxster wheels have
an offset of 40 and will allow wider tires in rear. You may even need a 5mm spacer.
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post Jun 23 2014, 12:55 PM
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Mark, great info and I'm just stuck on those Classic Fuchs. Rich Johnson is really helping me out as he has done this sucessfully. Turns out that my 930 axles actually have an additional spacer (Currently) that could match very nice what we would want to take off the swing arm thus eliminating that extra spacer. Could be a real win/win but more info is required to make that call. We shall see.


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post Jun 23 2014, 01:49 PM
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So are you saying you bought 7" fronts & the 8" rears? No way in hell you are fitting 16x8" fuchs on the back on a narrow body car. 7's will work on all 4 corners but typically require pulling the rears. All depends on your car & what size tire you run. I ran 7x16 fuchs all around with just the lips rolled. Had 215/45/16 tires.
If you have 4 7x16" Fuchs you shouldn't need an inch in back. That only makes sense if you have the 8's. In which case I will gladly send you some 7's for your 8's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 23 2014, 02:05 PM
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Just some other ideas (selling your reconditioned 7x16):

1) and get a pair of 7x15 911R rims (not cheap, but oh well). 7mm or 10mm spacer and you're done.

2) Have 3-piece 16" fuchs made in desired width and offset (several places build
these).
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post Jun 23 2014, 02:29 PM
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6inch fuchs are actually the classics...
and original to that period
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post Jun 23 2014, 03:52 PM
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A 951 16x7 same offset , caliper clearance the only di.
911 16x7 same offset
911 15x7 same offset
901 15x7 911R wheel different offset, much like later modern 7's

Its a V-8 car , get out the 1x2 and roll em out a bit...sheesh

I ran 951 16x8's with a heavy fender roll and have since returned to stock with not much bodywork...
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post Jun 23 2014, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(mskala @ Jun 23 2014, 01:05 PM) *
1) and get a pair of 7x15 911R rims (not cheap, but oh well). 7mm or 10mm spacer and you're done.


I have ridden in a car that had 911R wheels, and could not fit 205s under stock fenders on them. They had 195s, and the clearance was quite small on one side.

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post Jun 23 2014, 05:18 PM
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Hi,

I believe that even though you will be able to fit a 7 in wheel on, you are still limited to a 205 x55. See this thread at STF. Narrowed 914 trailing arms

Seems to be a lot of work to gain a miniscule amount of tire footprint.

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post Jun 23 2014, 05:33 PM
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Seems to be a lot of work to gain a miniscule amount of tire footprint.

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post Jun 23 2014, 07:54 PM
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I run 225 tires on 7's on one car....
225 on 7's on the second car with a 1 inch spacer
(8 inch fuchs fit easily if I pull the spacer)
both are the cost of a paint job.

its a red line in the planning.... a real decision point
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post Jun 24 2014, 09:29 AM
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cgnj 205/55/ZR16's are what I have.
JRust..... all 7" no 8"

Yeah, it does seem like a lot of work for a minimum amount of tire but I'm doing my homework to see all of my options. Trying to stay away from pulling the fenders. I like the classic Fuchs.


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post Jun 24 2014, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jun 22 2014, 11:10 PM) *

I did these, used bus IRS axles,,,way to much work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

the ones you show , I doubt you can use handbrake calipers..


Yes, I have 911 e-brakes. Those are my trailing arms. Did them over 10 years ago. Was not too much work for me. I like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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I have ridden in a car that had 911R wheels, and could not fit 205s under stock fenders on them. They had 195s, and the clearance was quite small on one side.


I had 911R Fuchs with 205/50/15s before 16x7 Fuchs. In rear I used 13mm thick spacers. No problems, no rubbing. In my tub.

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post Jun 24 2014, 02:28 PM
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H&H enterprises Plano Texas, Wes Hildreth I think is his name does this work
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post Jun 24 2014, 02:59 PM
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wes has been in hospice for 2 months...
I don't think he is doing this any longer
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