Adding a/c to my Suby Conversion- Options, Not a huge fan of the big under dash unit in some 914's |
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Adding a/c to my Suby Conversion- Options, Not a huge fan of the big under dash unit in some 914's |
JRust |
Jun 23 2014, 10:48 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Okay so I'm looking for some options for adding Air Conditioning to my 914. I have heat in the fresh air box now. Just want to have A/C for those long drives. I don't love the windows down all the time when it's hot out. Not to mention I tend to hit some of the out of town events. which usually are in some hot area's. So yes I want a little more comfort on those longer drives.
So let's keep the flames out of this if possible. I don't care if you don't like the idea. I'm looking for some options on adding aftermarket a/c. I'd still like to retain the 914 interior if possible. Not opposed to a little customization though. A fresh air box that could house both the a/c & heater would be great. I'm not a big fan of the under dash unit that came with the dealer add ons in 914's. What idea's do you guys have. Cost is a factor of course. I have my car at Original Customs now for some work. It will most likely be McMark doing the install. Just trying to get the creative juices flowing. This is for my water cooled Subaru conversion. So this isn't some stock car I would be ruining (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
Andyrew |
Jun 23 2014, 11:01 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I would go to the local yard and scavange a bunch of honda stuff (or from some guy parting a car). Strip it all down to its core, and mock it up under the dash then fiberglass what you need and run some hoses/controllers.
It'll take some time to figure out, but it'll work. If you remove the glovebox you might have enough room to do it without anyone noticing. You going to run the condensor in front of the radiator? Those be high pressure lines.. That might be the hardest part. Sourcing and fabbing the lines. |
bulitt |
Jun 24 2014, 12:03 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
Always wondered if the Vintage air mini unit with heat and AC would work. They will loan you an empty mock up case to try fitment.
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mgp4591 |
Jun 24 2014, 02:47 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,360 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Okay so I'm looking for some options for adding Air Conditioning to my 914. I have heat in the fresh air box now. Just want to have A/C for those long drives. I don't love the windows down all the time when it's hot out. Not to mention I tend to hit some of the out of town events. which usually are in some hot area's. So yes I want a little more comfort on those longer drives. So let's keep the flames out of this if possible. I don't care if you don't like the idea. I'm looking for some options on adding aftermarket a/c. I'd still like to retain the 914 interior if possible. Not opposed to a little customization though. A fresh air box that could house both the a/c & heater would be great. I'm not a big fan of the under dash unit that came with the dealer add ons in 914's. What idea's do you guys have. Cost is a factor of course. I have my car at Original Customs now for some work. It will most likely be McMark doing the install. Just trying to get the creative juices flowing. This is for my water cooled Subaru conversion. So this isn't some stock car I would be ruining (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I'd start by looking for a stock compressor for your 2.5 and source some other compatible Subie parts also. You can have lines and hoses fabbed and look for a small evaporator and possibly another location for the condenser other than the front of the car to keep line and hose length down. Look into BIGKATs setup for inspiration too- one of the cleanest installs I've seen on this site! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
mgp4591 |
Jun 24 2014, 02:49 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,360 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Okay so I'm looking for some options for adding Air Conditioning to my 914. I have heat in the fresh air box now. Just want to have A/C for those long drives. I don't love the windows down all the time when it's hot out. Not to mention I tend to hit some of the out of town events. which usually are in some hot area's. So yes I want a little more comfort on those longer drives. So let's keep the flames out of this if possible. I don't care if you don't like the idea. I'm looking for some options on adding aftermarket a/c. I'd still like to retain the 914 interior if possible. Not opposed to a little customization though. A fresh air box that could house both the a/c & heater would be great. I'm not a big fan of the under dash unit that came with the dealer add ons in 914's. What idea's do you guys have. Cost is a factor of course. I have my car at Original Customs now for some work. It will most likely be McMark doing the install. Just trying to get the creative juices flowing. This is for my water cooled Subaru conversion. So this isn't some stock car I would be ruining (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I'd start by looking for a stock compressor for your 2.5 and source some other compatible Subie parts also. You can have lines and hoses fabbed and look for a small evaporator and possibly another location for the condenser other than the front of the car to keep line and hose length down. Look into BIGKATs setup for inspiration too- one of the cleanest installs I've seen on this site! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I forgot to mention that Patrick Motorsports has an under/in dash evap and heater core setup that looks very compact and reasonable too... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
NORD |
Jun 24 2014, 07:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,505 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Lynden Washington Member No.: 2,756 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'd look at the super Chevy and Hot Rod sites for aftermarket units. |
bandjoey |
Jun 24 2014, 08:06 AM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,920 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Google. Hot rod air conditioning. Many small aftermarket units out there for custom rides.
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JRust |
Jun 24 2014, 09:17 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/vta-61005-vuz-a/overview/
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Under-Dash-AC-Unit,50705.html http://www.restomodair.com/shopproducts/va...tioning-system/ Found a few setups. Everything will be a custom deal obviously. Looks like some of these are small enough to possible go in the fresh air box location. With a little custom fitting to make everything work of course Although the 2nd one there could just be added in addition to my current heat setup in the fresh air box. Not a huge fan of the big underdash unit. That one is fairly small though. I'd just ditch my center console |
boxstr |
Jun 24 2014, 09:23 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Put the 914 on your trailer and take the factory air conditioned truck.
Craig at CAMP |
JRust |
Jun 24 2014, 09:44 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'd start by looking for a stock compressor for your 2.5 and source some other compatible Subie parts also. You can have lines and hoses fabbed and look for a small evaporator and possibly another location for the condenser other than the front of the car to keep line and hose length down. Look into BIGKATs setup for inspiration too- one of the cleanest installs I've seen on this site! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I would love to hear from Bigkat. Where do I find the pics of your setup? How did you do yours? |
mgp4591 |
Jun 24 2014, 10:08 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,360 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I'd start by looking for a stock compressor for your 2.5 and source some other compatible Subie parts also. You can have lines and hoses fabbed and look for a small evaporator and possibly another location for the condenser other than the front of the car to keep line and hose length down. Look into BIGKATs setup for inspiration too- one of the cleanest installs I've seen on this site! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I would love to hear from Bigkat. Where do I find the pics of your setup? How did you do yours? I haven't done mine- no place to work on it and it's frustrating as hell. But I will be leaving my compressor on when the 3.3 goes in. I've had lines and hoses fabbed before- it's just a matter of planning where to run them. The Patrick Motorsports underdash doesn't look big at all and it's designed for the 914. Install it all, adjust your freon capacity accordingly and freeze yer butt off! You can see pics of BIGKATs setup but I don't think he put up a tutorial on it... |
HalfMoon |
Jun 24 2014, 11:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: 13-November 12 From: Shenandoah Junction, WV Member No.: 15,144 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have a sb conversion and was thinking about using this unit as it would maybe fit in the cowl between the wall and the fuel tank (sans windshield washer which would need to be relocated).
http://www.southernrods.com/a-c-and-heat-u...-unit-only.html |
HalfMoon |
Jun 24 2014, 11:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: 13-November 12 From: Shenandoah Junction, WV Member No.: 15,144 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'd start by looking for a stock compressor for your 2.5 and source some other compatible Subie parts also. You can have lines and hoses fabbed and look for a small evaporator and possibly another location for the condenser other than the front of the car to keep line and hose length down. Look into BIGKATs setup for inspiration too- one of the cleanest installs I've seen on this site! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I would love to hear from Bigkat. Where do I find the pics of your setup? How did you do yours? I haven't done mine- no place to work on it and it's frustrating as hell. But I will be leaving my compressor on when the 3.3 goes in. I've had lines and hoses fabbed before- it's just a matter of planning where to run them. The Patrick Motorsports underdash doesn't look big at all and it's designed for the 914. Install it all, adjust your freon capacity accordingly and freeze yer butt off! You can see pics of BIGKATs setup but I don't think he put up a tutorial on it... I called Patrick Motorsports. They don't offer a unit as a part. They do a custom fab for each project. |
Chris H. |
Jun 24 2014, 03:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,024 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Here's some recent chatter about heat/ac in conversion cars. Bob's setup is an aftermarket Mustang II unit. He also says it's "not a bolt in job" which is code for pain in the ass. andys looks pretty cool too.
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Elliot Cannon |
Jun 24 2014, 03:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
This might work for you. Simple and cheap. http://www.b-kool.net/ (Just in case your motor doesn't provide enough power to run an AC compressor). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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Chris914n6 |
Jun 24 2014, 11:54 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,287 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'm close to producing an under cowl/air box replacement unit.
I was going to wait til I had pics but the peer pressure got to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
mgp4591 |
Jun 25 2014, 01:12 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,360 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Rats! Last time I looked at the Patrick website they had an underdash unit for a 914 for the paltry sum of 495.00. Now they show nothing... I did look at Restomod Air and they have a pretty compact package for just under 900. with vent hookups. Hmmm... mebbe look around for a old Civic you can rob the parts from, but as I remember it's kinda boxy. Just hide it all behing a BIG console! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif)
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McMark |
Jun 25 2014, 09:07 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,177 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I think we can stack the heater core and the evaporator in the fresh air box location, but will have to relocate the fan. This could turn into a nice feature to have 'climate zones'. If there is a fan on either side, then the driver and passenger could increase or decrease the airflow independently. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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JRust |
Jun 25 2014, 11:58 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I think we can stack the heater core and the evaporator in the fresh air box location, but will have to relocate the fan. This could turn into a nice feature to have 'climate zones'. If there is a fan on either side, then the driver and passenger could increase or decrease the airflow independently. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Ooh I like your thinking! Man you should just whip one of those out right now. Think of all the 914 owner's lining up to have you do it. You just need a working prototype. What better car could you put it in to show off your mad fab skills (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
McMark |
Jun 26 2014, 12:14 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,177 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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